“I think learning to be a good investor is also learning to do nothing from time to time,” he said. “That doesn't mean [investors are] not busy… There's work to be done, and I think if the bid-ask spread is narrowing, which we're seeing, I think sales will come back and there's lots to be done in putting the same teams on the sales effort and understanding how to use the capital stack, not just you know, to do equity, but to look at more hybrid ways to invest.”