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What happened between Paul and John that forever altered their relationship and created the emotional stalemate John dubbed “Pizza and Fairytales?”
In episode four, we evaluate four likely scenarios based on a comprehensive study of the available evidence.
Join Phoebe and Daphne on a deep exploration into the inspiration behind and meaning of Pizza and Fairytales.
SOURCES
Many Years From Now, Barry Miles (1997)
Man on the Run, Tom Doyle (2015)
Playboy Interview w/ John and Yoko (1980)
John Lennon, “Lennon Remembers” w/ Jann Wenner (1970)
Here, There and Everywhere, Geoff Emerick (2011)
Dakota Days, John Green (1983)
Last Days of John Lennon, Fred Seaman (1983)
Body Count, Francie Schwartz (1973)
Paul McCartney: the Definitive Biography by Chris Salewicz (1985)
Dave Sholin from The Day John Lennon Died (2009)
Allen Klein, Playboy: A candid conversation with the embattled manager of the Beatles. (November, 1971)
The Beatles Authorized Biography by Hunter Davies, Afterword (1985)
Paul McCartney letter to Brian Epstein — The Scotsman: Sad record of designs on a career which could never be. (March 27th, 2000)
John Lennon, interview w/ Barry Miles, (partially) unpublished. (September 23rd, 1969)
Alistair Taylor, With the Beatles. (2003)
Bridesmaids, director Paul Feig (2011)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Ray Connolly, Evening Standard: Paul on ‘Why the Beatles broke up’. (April 21st, 1970)
John Lennon: the Life, Philip Norman (2008)
Derek Taylor, Lennon Revealed (2007)
Paul McCartney on German TV Exclusiv (1985)
Victor Spinetti Up Front . . .: His Strictly Confidential Autobiography (October 1, 2006)
Sir Paul McCartney Interview, Evening Standard (December 14, 2018)
The Untold Stories of Paul McCartney, GQ (Sept 11, 2018)
John Lennon: A Journey in the Life BBC special (December 6, 1985)
Mark Lewisohn Tune In Extended Edition (2013)
In My Life, Pete Shotton (1983)
McCartney by Christopher Sandford (2007)
Loving John, May Pang (1983)
Bob Spitz, The Beatles: The Biography (2005)
Lennon & McCartney Interview w/ Larry Kane (May 13, 1968)
John Lennon Interview w/ McCabe & Schonfeld at St. Regis Hotel (Sept 9, 1971)
Harry Nilsson Interview w/ Geoffrey Guiliano (Feb 17, 1984)
Derek Taylor, Lennon Revealed (2007)
Paul McCartney, The Adam Buxton Podcast, episode 144 (2020)
Sandra Shevey Interview w/ John & Yoko (1972)
Amoralto.tumblr.com
“I’m Still Standing” John Harris, The Guardian (June 11, 2004)
The Lyrics: 1956 to the Present, Paul McCartney & Paul Muldoon (2021)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Ray Bonici for Music Express. (May, 1982)
Paul McCartney and Mike McCartney, by Mark Rowland, Playgirl (June, 1982)
MarijkeKogerArt.com
Lennon & McCartney Interview w/ Keith Fordyce BBC (August 1966)
Yoko Ono, interview w/ Paul Trynka for MOJO. (May, 2003)
John & Yoko Interview w/ Laurie Kaye (December 8, 1980)
John & Yoko Interview w/ Dave Sholin (December 8, 1980)
Yoko Interview BBC Radio 6 “06: Two of Us” (1990)
John Lennon w/ Elliot Mintz (January 1976)
John Lennon to David Sheff (September 1980)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Mark Binelli for Rolling Stone: Sir Paul rides again. (October 20th, 2005)
Crossing Over: The Stories Behind the Stories, John Edward (2002)
BBC documentary Mr. Blue Sky (2012)
“Paul McCartney Doesn’t Really Want to Stop the Show” by David Remnick, The New Yorker (October 18, 2021)
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Now and Then, JOHN LENNON (1977)
I’m So Tired, THE BEATLES (1968)
Across the Universe, THE BEATLES (1968)
Fool on the Hill, THE BEATLES (1967)
Look At Me (demo) JOHN LENNON (1968)
Hey Bulldog THE BEATLES (1968)
I Don’t Know PAUL McCARTNEY (2018)
Real Love JOHN LENNON (1980)
Some People Never Know WINGS (1971)
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What happened between Paul and John that forever altered their relationship and created the emotional stalemate John dubbed “Pizza and Fairytales?”
In episode four, we evaluate four likely scenarios based on a comprehensive study of the available evidence.
Join Phoebe and Daphne on a deep exploration into the inspiration behind and meaning of Pizza and Fairytales.
SOURCES
Many Years From Now, Barry Miles (1997)
Man on the Run, Tom Doyle (2015)
Playboy Interview w/ John and Yoko (1980)
John Lennon, “Lennon Remembers” w/ Jann Wenner (1970)
Here, There and Everywhere, Geoff Emerick (2011)
Dakota Days, John Green (1983)
Last Days of John Lennon, Fred Seaman (1983)
Body Count, Francie Schwartz (1973)
Paul McCartney: the Definitive Biography by Chris Salewicz (1985)
Dave Sholin from The Day John Lennon Died (2009)
Allen Klein, Playboy: A candid conversation with the embattled manager of the Beatles. (November, 1971)
The Beatles Authorized Biography by Hunter Davies, Afterword (1985)
Paul McCartney letter to Brian Epstein — The Scotsman: Sad record of designs on a career which could never be. (March 27th, 2000)
John Lennon, interview w/ Barry Miles, (partially) unpublished. (September 23rd, 1969)
Alistair Taylor, With the Beatles. (2003)
Bridesmaids, director Paul Feig (2011)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Ray Connolly, Evening Standard: Paul on ‘Why the Beatles broke up’. (April 21st, 1970)
John Lennon: the Life, Philip Norman (2008)
Derek Taylor, Lennon Revealed (2007)
Paul McCartney on German TV Exclusiv (1985)
Victor Spinetti Up Front . . .: His Strictly Confidential Autobiography (October 1, 2006)
Sir Paul McCartney Interview, Evening Standard (December 14, 2018)
The Untold Stories of Paul McCartney, GQ (Sept 11, 2018)
John Lennon: A Journey in the Life BBC special (December 6, 1985)
Mark Lewisohn Tune In Extended Edition (2013)
In My Life, Pete Shotton (1983)
McCartney by Christopher Sandford (2007)
Loving John, May Pang (1983)
Bob Spitz, The Beatles: The Biography (2005)
Lennon & McCartney Interview w/ Larry Kane (May 13, 1968)
John Lennon Interview w/ McCabe & Schonfeld at St. Regis Hotel (Sept 9, 1971)
Harry Nilsson Interview w/ Geoffrey Guiliano (Feb 17, 1984)
Derek Taylor, Lennon Revealed (2007)
Paul McCartney, The Adam Buxton Podcast, episode 144 (2020)
Sandra Shevey Interview w/ John & Yoko (1972)
Amoralto.tumblr.com
“I’m Still Standing” John Harris, The Guardian (June 11, 2004)
The Lyrics: 1956 to the Present, Paul McCartney & Paul Muldoon (2021)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Ray Bonici for Music Express. (May, 1982)
Paul McCartney and Mike McCartney, by Mark Rowland, Playgirl (June, 1982)
MarijkeKogerArt.com
Lennon & McCartney Interview w/ Keith Fordyce BBC (August 1966)
Yoko Ono, interview w/ Paul Trynka for MOJO. (May, 2003)
John & Yoko Interview w/ Laurie Kaye (December 8, 1980)
John & Yoko Interview w/ Dave Sholin (December 8, 1980)
Yoko Interview BBC Radio 6 “06: Two of Us” (1990)
John Lennon w/ Elliot Mintz (January 1976)
John Lennon to David Sheff (September 1980)
Paul McCartney, interview w/ Mark Binelli for Rolling Stone: Sir Paul rides again. (October 20th, 2005)
Crossing Over: The Stories Behind the Stories, John Edward (2002)
BBC documentary Mr. Blue Sky (2012)
“Paul McCartney Doesn’t Really Want to Stop the Show” by David Remnick, The New Yorker (October 18, 2021)
PLAYLIST
Now and Then, JOHN LENNON (1977)
I’m So Tired, THE BEATLES (1968)
Across the Universe, THE BEATLES (1968)
Fool on the Hill, THE BEATLES (1967)
Look At Me (demo) JOHN LENNON (1968)
Hey Bulldog THE BEATLES (1968)
I Don’t Know PAUL McCARTNEY (2018)
Real Love JOHN LENNON (1980)
Some People Never Know WINGS (1971)
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