PJ caused quite a blaze among fans with his fire truck entrance on “The Bachelorette” and sadly was eliminated early, but this week he joins Mike and Bryan to share more about his life. PJ details growing up in Texas and his journey to becoming a firefighter. He also reveals heartbreaking details about both of his brothers’ deaths and explains more about the Bakari Foundation, which he started in memory of his brother who was murdered overseas. Then, PJ talks about his brief time on “The Bachelorette” and all the drama that went down on this week’s episode.   

Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss vulnerability and why Jamie broke the “cardinal rule” on “The Bachelorette.”  

Learn more about the Bakari Foundation: 

www.thebakarifoundation.org 

bakariluxurysportswear.com 

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