Mike talks with Matt Grossmann, Director of the Institute for Public Policy and Social Research and Professor of Political Science at Michigan State University. Matt was on the show in 2019 when we talked about his book on public policy change, Artists of the Possible, and he’s back again for a discussion of his latest book, co-authored with David Hopkins, Polarized by Degrees: How the Diploma Divide and the Culture War Transformed American Politics.

Topics Mike & Matt Discuss Include:

- the educultural realignment in American Politics

- the degree divide as an international phenomenon

- if the progressive left has moved too fast

- the dangerous ramifications of destroying institutional trust

- the political right and ‘woke capitalism’

- why liberals dominate popular culture

- conservatives’ attempts to set up parallel institutions

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