How real are police dramas? The insominac detective, trenchcoat in the rain, late night in a bar when he should be at home with his family.

And despite his personal issues, our hero detective always gets his man. The evidence always falls into place.

But how realistic is this? What is it actually like policing crime, and how far away from the truth are the well trodden fictional detectives?

In this epsiode, David and Emilia talk to MET Police Comissioner Baz Javid, about his humble beginings as a boy, fighting crime with his brother Savid, to his journey to becoming a comisissioner with the MET. Bas gives a unique and exclusive insight into the difficult decisions the police have to make every day.

And in they sit down with Royce Pierreson, from the TV drama Murdered By My Boyfriend and Netflix's The Irregulars, to find out what it takes to embody one of police-detective drama's most infamous duo - Holmes and Watson.

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