ASPI's roving report Brendan Nicholson talks all things Cyber with Admiral Mike Rogers, recently retired Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command and Director of the U.S. National Security Agency. Mike has recently joined ASPI as a Distinguished Visiting Fellow.

For Game of Thrones fans, MAJOR SPOILERS (from 21:17). A very emotional Renee Jones talks to Malcolm Davis & Hannah Smith about tactics from Team Alive in the Siege of Winterfell and its strategic implications for the rest of the series. If you’re not up to date on GoT stop listening from 21:17...

Music in this episode; "Cypher" by Wayne Jones and "Tribal Affair" by SYBS. Both via the You Tube Audio Library.