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Today’s episode will help us rediscover the heart of discipleship by reminding pastors and church leaders that spiritual growth, humility, and biblical grounding are essential—not just for those they lead, but for themselves as well.

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In this bilingual episode, John sits down with David Mieja and others to discuss life as pastors, disciples, and spiritual leaders. The conversation weaves between English and Spanish, reflecting the diverse backgrounds of the participants.

They reflect on cultural dynamics in church life, especially within Hispanic communities in the U.S., and how traditions from places like El Salvador and Cuba shape discipleship practices. Both men stress that true discipleship isn’t just about attending services—it’s about transformation, humility, and a deep connection to God’s Word.

Scriptures like Matthew 28 and Philippians 3 frame their message: making disciples is central to the church’s mission. They caution against drifting from biblical truth and highlight the need for mentorship and spiritual accountability.

The episode wraps up with a prayer for wisdom, unity, and faithfulness in ministry. Through honest stories and biblical insight, David and John offer a timely reminder: spiritual leaders never stop learning, and the church thrives when discipleship stays at the center.