In this episode, Paul and Shawna sit down with Mark Glanville—jazz musician, Old Testament scholar, and Director of the Centre for Missional Leadership at the University of British Columbia—to explore his journey from Sydney’s jazz scene to missional leadership in post-Christian cultures. Broadcasting from his piano bench in Vancouver, Mark shares how his love for music shapes his preaching, how communal over individualistic frameworks can reframe sermon practice, and why holistic well-being is vital for sustaining pastoral life. He also discusses his recent book, Preaching In A New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Communities, which offers a fresh vision for preaching in a skeptical age. Listeners can learn more about Mark’s work at markglanville.org and tune into his podcast Blue Note Theology—“the only podcast in the world hosted from the grand piano!