Dr. Stephanie Thurston-Simmons and husband Brian Simmons own and operate New Solutions Counseling & Trauma Center, in Southlake, TX, a suburb of Dallas-Ft. Worth.  In their practice, they treat sex offenders. In this episode, Chris, Stephanie, and Brian go inside the minds of predators.  Here is the link to New Solutions:  https://nscpllc.org/

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Jay Reffner was a 30-year-old in the Greenville, Ohio investigation. He is best known for his screenname, high pitched voice, and his mommy being on his side.  Reffner started chatting with a girl he believed to be fifteen that went by the name of "bushsucksgrrl". Upon learning the girl's age, he is undeterred in coming over with alcohol and having sex with the girl, asking if he could take her virginity.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Alonzo Wade was 40 years old at the time he began talking to a girl he believed to be fifteen years old with the screen name "bushsucksgrrl". He is a "fast mover" as his chat begins and ends on the same night as his confrontation and arrest. The decoy asks if he will bring condoms, but says he won't need them because, "I am fixed".  Alonzo shows up with a twelve pack of beer and two six-packs of Mike's Hard Lemonade. He enters the house, unzips his fly, and that’s when Chris steps in.

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Daniel Pulido was 40 years old when he chatted up a girl he believed to be 13 years old by the name of “Sammy” (or Wassami or Wasabi according to Pulido). He immediately asks the girl if she wants to see him cum and if her vagina is “nice”. He asks if she is in her room. He was just asking because he was naked. Daniel would transmit images of himself nude as well as masturbating.

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Michael Joseph Patterson, otherwise known as jon_raven2000 was a predator caught in the Bowling Green, Kentucky investigation. He is perhaps best known for having driven 5 hours to meet an underage girl and screaming while trying to evade capture by police. Check out the true crime podcast, Innocent Til Tipsy https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innocent-til-tipsy/id1590142763 You can receive 10% off your first month of BetterHelp by going to BetterHelp.com/Hansen

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In this special edition of PIC, Chris and former Murphy, TX lawman Kevin Carter discuss the investigation that led to Louis William Conradt Jr., a predator who was supposed to be caught during the Murphy, Texas investigation. He shot himself before police could apprehend him.   Please check out Kevin's new book, "Suspicious Death: An Adopted Son's Search for His Mother's Killer"  https://www.amazon.com/Suspicious-Death-Adopted-Search-Mothers/dp/1667832670/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2YUAJ5TFRKV14&keywords=9781667832678&qid=1649863502&sprefix=%2Caps%2C64&sr=8-2 

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Matthew Cogburn was from Gray, Georgia.  His childhood was fairly normal for a kid in Georgia, was an average student in school, and was raised very religious.  He earned a pair of handcuffs in Fortson, Georgia, just outside of Columbus and two hours from his home. However, his trouble began in an internet chat room a week earlier.  Using the screen name "centgaguy04," this admitted virgin, who stated he was saving himself for marriage, began a graphic chat with someone he believed to be a 14-year-old girl named Wendy.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Oanh Hoang Le was a potential predator caught in the Flagler beach, Florida episode of To catch a Predator. He is often referred to as "The Polite Predator" by the TCaP community due to his kind gestures and polite attitue during the sting and his police interrogation. www.BetterHelp.com/Hansen for 10% off

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Denis Coulson, a 23 year old electrician, began chatting with a girl named "Izzy" he believed to be fifteen years old. Even upon knowing the girl's age, he expressed his desires to have sexual contact with girl, saying things like, "id be all over u like white on rice" if he were younger and continuously complimenting the girl on her looks. He also keeps trying to dig into her sexual life, trying to find out about her former boyfriends and her sexual experience. He promises her that if they have sex that she will learn new tricks because he switches positions a lot and also introduces the possibility of having anal sex. After chatting for four days, Coulson and the decoy make a date to meet at the sting house.

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After appearing on the Riverside County-To Catch a Predator sting in January, 2006, Rodriguez was convicted of an attempted lewd act on a minor and sentenced to 3 months in prison. The "tag along" was questioned by police and let go. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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