This week, celebrity gossip Instagram account DeuxMoi posted some blurry photos of two peoples’ backs. But these weren’t just *any* backs, they (allegedly, as DeuxMoi does not verify the claims it posts) belonged to Bachelor Matt James and his ex-girlfriend, Rachael Kirkconnell.

The last we, the viewers, had seen, Matt and Rachael were being forced to relive their relationship — and in Matt’s case, the racial trauma it wrought — on a soundstage during “After The Final Rose.” Both of them were raw and emotional, and the distance between them was palpable. But now, they appear to be just strolling around Brooklyn! Naturally, the people of Bachelor Nation had questions.

This made us think about what couples who come off of “The Bachelor” owe the public, and what they don’t. It also made us think a lot about breakups, and how sometimes you need to return to a person face-to-face in order to get some real closure. So on this week’s bonus audio chat, we talk about breakups — Bachelor Nation breakups and reunions, as well as some of our own experiences.

Happy listening!

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We’re reading…

Our friend and former colleague Laura Bassett’s interview with the man who keeps posting photos of her feet to WikiFeet.

Kelsey McKinney’s propulsive, bittersweet novel “God Spare the Girls” (worth a pre-order if you’re hoping for some engrossing beach/park reading this summer).

We’re listening to…

Olivia Rodrigo’s new single, “deja vu,” trying to reclaim our youth.

“Death at the Wing,” a podcast about the NBA and a spate of deaths among young basketball stars in the ‘70s and ‘80s — which is actually about the immiseration of the Reagan era, structural racism, and the usual American bullshit.

We’re buying…

Emma recently had a whole bag of her laundry stolen, so this week she placed an order for a bunch of basics from American Eagle, like a couple of these Aerie seamless ribbed crop tanks. (Also, the Aerie underwear is seriously great!)

This Commando faux leather crop top, in the hopes of one day, “going out” again.

One of those mooned-over Lithuanian linen sack dresses (this one), which was actually purchased over a month ago and finally arrived this week. The buttons are wood, and the fabric is a summer dream.