In the history of reality TV dating shows, no "meet the parents" episode has ever reached the heights of 'Flavor of Love' season one. Pumpkin's mom blows up her TV-loving daughter's spot, Hoopz' mom makes a move on ya man Flav, New York's mom bursts onto the scene, and the simmering feud reaches its disgusting (and unforgettable) conclusion. Oh, and we find out who won Flav's heart. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Non-updates on ‘The Bachelorette’

2:00 E9 was just a clip show

3:30 One of the great reality TV episodes ever

6:00 Pumpkin’s mom and other shows Pumpkin was on

15:00 Mrs. Hoopz’s 1-1 date with Flav at Medieval Times

20:00 New York’s parents

27:00 The infamous clock ceremony

37:00 Clip show takeaways

39:00 Finale dates in Mexico

44:00 Final clock ceremony

50:00 Reunion

58:00 Mailbag

1:03:00 Still in limbo re: ‘The Bachelorette’

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VH1 goes TV-MA with some of those spa scenes folks. Plus: Does/did Brigette Nielsen still have feelings for Foofy? Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Cigarettes and the McBees

4:00 What AB wants in a reality TV dating show

7:00 Puffing heaters

8:00 ‘Blind Date’

9:00 Brigette and Foofy 

12:00 Lie detector test [TV’s Go-To Guy for Playing Truth or Dare (The New York Times)]

15:00 Dinner without Flav

17:00 Brigette and Flav’s date

21:00 Clock Ceremony

25:00 Nastiness

28:00 Palm Springs

34:00 San Diego

38:00 Clock Ceremony

39:00 Lack of spit teases

41:00 Mailbag

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New York, who is in the house, goes out of her way to make sure Flav's mom knows she loves her son. Plus: Appreciation for both Hottie and New York, two very different types of reality TV stars. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Insults!

2:00 We’re recapping ‘McBee Dynasty’

3:30 Amazing group dates (and competitions)

5:00 Church service and tea room

7:00 Hottie and New York

10:00 Eight 1-on-1 dates in one night

11:30 Pumpkin, Hoopz, and New York join Flav in bed

15:00 What Flav’s looking for

18:00 Fried chicken cooking competition

20:30 Deliberation and clock ceremony

24:00 Throw on your slamminest dress

28:00 New York 1-1 date

30:00 The five senses challenge

35:00 A great New York scene

37:00 Clock Ceremony

41:00 Red Osyter Now: A Reality TV Love Story

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New York and Pumpkin formally ignite their feud, which will eventually come to a sloppy, tragic end. Plus: Did Miss Latin deserve a chance to state her case to Flav? Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

1:00 Tubi talk

3:00 They don’t make ’em like this anymore

4:00 Hot tub group date

6:30 Rain vs. New York

9:00 Pumpkin vs. New York I

11:00 Miss Latin and he ex-boyfriend

14:00 Red Oyster? More like Red Informant folks

16:00 Clock Ceremony

23:00 “Old friends” group date

26:00 Sweetie’s Red Lobster dinner date

28:00 “My friends tell me I look like Beyonce”

33:00 Birthday party at the park

37:00 Serious date >> Pumpkin makeout

39:00 Clock Ceremony

42:00 Viewership numbers

44:00 Flav-o-bag

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Over the next few weeks, Rim and AB will revisit the first season of 'Flavor of Love', when VH1's "celebreality" shows were ascending to their mainstream raunchy peak. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

1:00 VH1’s “Celebreality” shows

6:00 AB’s legendary DVD collection is gone

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9:00 The premise of ‘Flavor of Love’

14:00 Group introduction

17:00 Nicknames and name tags

24:00 Raunchiest moments

28:00 Musing about moralizing

32:00 “Champagne will sneak up on ya”

35:00 Wikipedia bursts our bubble

39:00 Clock Ceremony

45:00 Random Instagrams

51:00 Nowadays,,,

55:00 What AB would have done with his clock

56:00 ‘Flavor’ Headlines of the Week: 

• The New York Times: A Ladies’ Man Everyone Fights Over (by Lola Ogunnaike, October 1, 2006)
• Flow Journal: Into the Maelstrom with Flavor of Love (by Jennifer Fuller, July 11, 2008)

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With 'The Bachelor' franchise seemingly on pause until 2027, we've decided to spend the summer revisiting one of many iconic VH1 dating shows from our youth. We hope you'll join us by watching (or re-watching) 'Flavor of Love' season 1.

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• Tubi
• DVD boxed set

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With 'The Bachelorette' "on pause", we discuss possible futures for the franchise, and The Rosecast. Thanks for listening.

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Mel finds love at the end of his journey! But not so much love that he’s ready to commit to an engagement or joint relocation. That was apparently never a possibility. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Happily ever after with Neil Lane

1:30 AB almost fast forwarded through the climactic moment

7:00 Glossing over Gerry

9:00 Cindy breaks up with Mel

18:00 Cindy in studio

21:00 Mel and Cindy in studio

28:00 Peg meets the boys

33:00 The most expensive promise ring of all time

38:00 Peg and Mel in studio

40:00 Taylor Frankie Paul interview

44:00 Mailbag

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Like Peg in the passenger seat of the dune buggy, Rim and AB woo through this episode in an attempt to create excitement where there is none. Plus: Breaking down the golden war of words between Gerry and Theresa. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Lack of notes

1:30 Extended discussion about Gerry and Theresa’s war of words in the media, which AB recaps from memory

7:00 YouTubeTV-Disney dispute

10:00 Respecting elders

11:00 Montages and other things

16:00 Peg date - day time

19:00 Peg date - night time

23:00 Morning after

24:00 Cindy date - day time (with bonus uneducated manta ray talk)

28:00 Cindy date - night time

37:00 Things that could salvage the season at the finale

39:00 Mailbag

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Cindy extends her lead over potential future Golden Bachelorettes Peg and Debbie, whose exit set a new standard for class. Plus: Mel condescendingly tosses the pigskin with a coupla guys who could only dream of takin’ down Phil Simms in the Coliseum. Thanks for listening. (Timestamps below)

P.S. Throughout this episode, especially when Rim loudly begins a sentence, you'll notice his audio is unpleasant to listen to. This is a setup error on my end, and I am sorry to have done it.

""I'm good for that about once a year." - George Brett" - Rim causing major audio clipping

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Timestamps (approximate):

0:15 Little treat

2:00 Schedule for next week

4:00 Peg hometown - Las Vegas

13:00 Debbie hometown - Denver

21:00 Cindy hometown - Austin

28:00 Rose Ceremony

33:00 Mailbag

52:00 Power Rankings

53:00 Predicting the likelihood of different outcomes

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