What if happiness isn’t something you achieve… but something you allow yourself to experience?

In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack the pressure so many of us feel to “finally be happy” once we hit the next goal, make more money, lose the weight, build the business, heal the trauma, or become more confident.

But what happens when you get there… and still don’t feel the way you thought you would?

This conversation dives into overthinking happiness, nervous system safety, childhood experiences, expectations, emotional triggers, entrepreneurship, self-sabotage, and the exhausting cycle of always moving the finish line.

From deeply personal stories to honest reflections about success, relationships, achievement, and emotional safety — this episode is a reminder that maybe happiness was never supposed to look perfect or cinematic.

Sometimes happiness is slower than that.

Sometimes it’s coffee in silence.
A calm nervous system.
A home-cooked meal.
A moment where your brain finally stops scanning for the next problem.

And maybe… that’s enough.

Welcome back to Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This.

Episode 7: The Thought That Won’t Leave You Alone

Why do some thoughts refuse to let go?

In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, we talk about the mental spirals that start small and somehow turn into full-blown emotional documentaries in our heads.

From overthinking taxes, delegation, awkward conversations, social media, business decisions, relationships, and life transitions… we unpack what it actually feels like to live with a brain that won’t stop thinking.

We dive into:
• entrepreneur brain & decision fatigue
• imposter syndrome
• anxiety vs intuition
• mental blocks & overwhelm
• why smart people overthink
• fear of getting things wrong
• overthinking as protection
• learning to show up anyway

We also share some very real (and slightly chaotic) stories about job interviews, SAT tests, business ownership, emotional overwhelm, shower thoughts, and the random spirals our brains create out of absolutely nothing.

If your brain has ever convinced you that one text message, one decision, or one unfinished task meant your entire life was falling apart… this episode is for you.

Connect with us:
Kami → @epscoaching
Melissa → @brave.harbour

Thanks for spiraling with us 💭

We say we’re “trying” all the time…
but are we actually trying or just thinking about it?

In this episode, we unpack what trying really looks like in real life. Not the polished version. The messy, uncomfortable, sometimes hilarious version where you either take the step… or talk yourself out of it.

We get into:

• The difference between fake trying vs. real trying
• How overthinking keeps you stuck in “almost”
• Why confidence doesn’t come first - action does
• The split-second moment where everything can change
• What trying actually looks like in business, relationships, and everyday life

We share real stories, call ourselves out (a lot), and remind you that trying doesn’t mean changing your whole life overnight…

It means doing one thing differently today.

Because at the end of the day -
you’re either doing it… or you’re not.

Connect with us on Instagram:

Kami @epscoaching

Melissa @brave.harbour

Do you ever feel like everyone else is ahead of you?

Like they launched faster, built bigger, figured it out sooner and somehow you’re still trying to catch up?

In this episode, we’re talking about the pressure of timelines, comparison, and the exhausting belief that you’re somehow behind in life.

From business growth and money to relationships and personal goals, we unpack where that feeling comes from and why it might not actually be true.

Because maybe you’re not behind.
Maybe you’re just building your life differently.

This is the episode for anyone who feels like they should be further along by now.

Spoiler: you’re probably doing better than you think. 🎙️

Connect With Us:

Kami Schatz @epscoaching

Melissa Hayes @brave.harbour

Have you ever walked away from a conversation… and then replayed it in your head for hours?

What you said.
What you should have said.
How they might have taken it.
What they’re thinking about you now.

In this episode, we’re diving into the spiral of overthinking conversations after they happen and why so many high-functioning, self-aware people get stuck there.

We talk about:

• Why your brain won’t let it go
• The pressure to say the “right” thing
• How overthinking quietly impacts your confidence, relationships, and decisions
• And the truth most people don’t realize… they’ve already moved on

This isn’t about “just stop overthinking.”
It’s about understanding what’s actually happening and learning how to break the cycle.

If you’ve ever left a conversation feeling off, second-guessed yourself, or mentally rewritten it 10 different ways… this one’s for you.

Real conversations for high-functioning overthinkers navigating business, relationships, identity, and growth.

Follow along for more conversations like this and behind-the-scenes moments from the podcast.

🎧 Podcast: Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This

🔗 Connect With Us on Instagram:

Kami @epscoaching

Melissa @brave.harbour

What if the reason you’re not showing up… isn’t because you don’t know what to say but because you’re afraid of being seen?

In this episode, we get real about what it actually feels like to put yourself out there especially when it shifts from personal to business. Because posting for fun is one thing… but showing up when it matters hits completely different.

We talk about the pressure of social media, the overthinking spiral, and those moments where you want to be visible - but also kind of want to hide at the same time. (Yep… both can be true.)

From fear of judgment, to dealing with comments, to questioning every post - we’re unpacking it all in a way that’s honest, relatable, and a little bit of a reality check.

In this episode:

• Why being seen feels harder than people admit
• The shift from personal posting → business visibility
• Overthinking content, comments, and perception
• Real stories of fear, backlash, and growth
• Learning to show up anyway

Overthinking of the Week:
What did you almost NOT post because you were worried how it would be received?

The truth:
You don’t actually want to stay hidden… you just don’t want to be seen and misunderstood.

If you’ve been holding back, overthinking, or waiting until you feel “ready”… this one’s for you.

Connect with Us:

Kami: https://www.instagram.com/epscoaching/

Melissa: https://www.instagram.com/brave.harbour/

In this first official episode, we’re diving into something almost everyone experiences but rarely talks about honestly: why smart, capable people still doubt themselves.

We talk about:

• ​Knowing what to do… but not doing it
• ​Why confidence shows up for everyone else but not always for us
• ​Overthinking, capacity, and getting stuck in your own head
• ​And what it actually looks like to move forward anyway

This episode is real, a little messy, and exactly what this podcast is about - figuring it out in real time.

If you’ve ever felt like you should be further ahead, more confident, or more “together”… you’re not alone.

We’re right there with you.

Connect with Us:

Melissa @brave.harbour

Kami @epscoaching

Welcome to the podcast! We’re Melissa Hayes and Kami Schatz - two business owners in the middle of building, evolving, and figuring it out as we go.

In this intro episode, we’re sharing who we are, how this podcast came to life, and what you can expect from future episodes. Think real conversations about business, life, growth, and everything in between - without the fluff or filters.

If you’re building something, dreaming bigger, or just trying to stay consistent… you’re in the right place.

👉 Follow the show so you don’t miss what’s coming next.

Connect with us:

Kami @epscoaching

Melissa @brave.harbour