Hicham Gardaf is a photographer who was born in Tangier, Morocco, and is currently based in London. Gardaf’s work at its centre poses questions that investigate transformations of contemporary landscape, spatiality and politics of space. While he was back in Tangier for a brief trip home, I invited Hicham over for coffee and this conversation, in which we dove into how his lifelong love of looking at pictures and images transformed into taking and curating them into his own art. In his soft-spoken and uniquely humble way, Hicham shared how he got to where he is as an artist by recognizing opportunity, his interests in the relationship between photography, painting & cinema, some of Tanger’s history that he has been documenting and researching in terms of development and architecture, his interest in “vague space,” and why, for him, the creative process of being a photographer is backwards.