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I was stoked that Bas Vodde, co-creator of the LeSS (Large Scale Scrum) framework, agreed to come on the show and answer my favourite questions that I aim to ask every LeSS trainer over the coming shows:
Topics Discussed:
Bas Vodde is an experienced coach in agile methods and especially Scrum. He’s also a certified Scrum trainer.
He is originally from Holland, however, has lived in China, Finland and is currently living in Singapore. In the 90s he worked as a developer in Holland and felt a mismatch between what he experienced as working and between “what the official literature said you should do”. That was solved with the introduction of Extreme Programming and even more so, with Agile Development in general. At the beginning of 2001, he had enough of the “normal life” and moved to China where he started working for Nokia. Here, he gained experience on very large projects and the traditional ways they are run. After this, he became even more convinced that Agile Development is the way forward, for all size projects.
Bas created the LeSS framework with Craig Larman over a number of years working alongside each other, a topic which we explore in this interview.
A number of things were mentioned during the interview, I felt it right to share some links here to make it easier for you to see what we were speaking about:
LeSS Case Studies
There are 10’s of great case studies here to read, Ben’s RBS case study is a great example and the most recently released case study on huge LeSS Huge, autonomous driving at BMW , whilst a hefty read is well worth it.
Test-Driven Development
A mindset and practice that should be much bigger than it is!
Merciless Refactoring
This XP article is a little old now, but don’t let that put you off! This article by James Shore is also worth reading.
Bas’s LeSS Courses
You can find all of Bas’s courses here.
The LeSS Rules
Find the most up to date LeSS Rules here. These evolved over time to help organisations get the most out of LeSS so well worth reading.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
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Critics of #agile frameworks and methodologies are under the assumption that planning isn't a very important element of #productdevelopment for #scrum and #LeSS (Large Scale Scrum) teams.
That isn't true, however, because planning plays a critical role in product development and rapid iterations of products and features. The #scrum guide features #sprintplanning as the very first event in the Sprint so rest assured, it is both meaningful and valuable in a #largescalescrum environment.
In traditional or waterfall #projectmanagement, a #projectmanager attempts to guess the entire project upfront. They attempt to plan every single step of the multi-year journey and anticipate what kinds of problems could arise from the dependencies at each step of the project.
If that sounds kinda impossible, you're definitely not losing your mind. Given the high complexity of the 21st century, it is impossible to guess a multi-year project upfront?
In other words, a single person is being set up for failure. The project manager.
In #scrum, we rely on the expertise of every member of our product development group when planning. From the Scrum Masters to the Product Owners, and through to the development team themselves.
Decision-making is a critical element of each #sprint cycle and the entire team are responsible for ensuring that their focus lies in creating products and features that truly delight customers.
How?
#LeSS expert #coach and #trainer Ben Maynard walks us through who is responsible for planning in LeSS (Large Scale Scrum) environments. In this short episode, Ben shares his thoughts, insights and recommendations for how planning should be conducted.
Ben has over a decade's worth of experience as a #LeSS practitioner, coach and trainer. He has worked on some of the most successful #LeSS adoptions in some of the most diverse industries. He has also collaborated and co-trained with #LeSS co-founders Bas Vodde and Craig Larman.
For more insights and information on Sheev, Ben's coaching and training company, visit https://www.sheev.co.uk.
#agile #scrum #largescalescrum #LeSS #agilecoach #coach #agiletrainer #LeSStrainer #projectmanagement #agileprojectmanagement #scrumprojectmanegement #agilescrumtraining
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Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
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For this episode, I was hyped to welcome the legendary Ahmad Fahmy, one of the world's first Large Scale Scrum trainers and someone I got to know through his groundbreaking work on Team Self Design.
Ahmad specializes in large-scale product development & organizational design. He has helped multiple investment banks and product companies successfully transition to lean and agile ways of working. With over 20 years of banking technology experience, his financial product knowledge and technology background makes him well-suited to help organizations transform. He is also the author of numerous scaling patterns including, team self-design, Gemba sprint and Behavior stories. His experience and empathy have made him a sought-after consultant, trainer, and speaker on organizational design and change.
Topics Discussed:
Scrum PLoP®
Scrum PLoP® is an initiative mentioned during our conversation. You can check out the patterns here or support them by purchasing their book.
Tom Gilb
Tom Glib is an author and systems engineer who has got a very interesting on-demand course covering Value Outcomes with a one-day free pass.
Ahmad’s Case Studies & Experience Reports
You can check out his case study from the Antarctica Investment Bank or his classic piece on Team Self-Design.
Cope (Jim Coplien)
Cope is a contributor to the Scrum PLoP® and is well known for his work on Organisational and Software Patterns.
Ahmad Fahmy - Ahmadfahmy.com
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
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💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
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Scrum is built on the value proposition of achieving twice the work in half the time. So what does Large Scale Scrum (LeSS) look like and how can it help you achieve the same benefits that made Scrum so popular with engineering environments? Ben Maynard, Certified LeSS Expert, trainer and coach walks us through how Large Scale Scrum works and why it's such a valuable framework for building products and services that truly delight customers. Visit https://www.sheev.co.uk for more expert insights and advice on LeSS.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱!
Ben Maynard
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💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
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🔥 Get Ahead of the Curve: The Shocking Truth About Traditional Project Management vs. Large Scale Scrum! 🔥
Are you still stuck in the outdated project management era? 😱 Discover how the game-changing LeSS framework is rewriting the rules for the 21st Century! 🚀
Join Ben Maynard, the LeSS Guru, as he unveils the mind-blowing differences between Large Scale Scrum and traditional project management. 💥 Brace yourself for a paradigm shift that will leave you breathless! 💡
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#ProjectManagementRevolution #LeSSFramework #21stCenturyBreakthrough #UnleashYourPotential
Project Management thrived in the 19th and 20th centuries but tends to fall over whenever we enter volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous environments. Simply put, waterfall project management battles to deal with the complexities of the 21st Century. So how is Large Scale Scrum (LeSS) different to traditional project management? Ben Maynard, Certified LeSS Trainer and Coach, walks us through those differences and demonstrates how LeSS is custom designed for the 21st Century. Visit https://www.sheev.co.uk for more expert insights and advice on LeSS.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱!
Ben Maynard
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💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
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Scrum was designed by a team of software engineers who realised that traditional waterfall style project management could no longer serve the complex and ambiguous environments they worked in. Since 1995, it has become the most popular Agile framework for producing products and services that truly delight customers. Often, companies need to make a significant shift in their organisational mindset to accommodate the lightweight framework. Ben Maynard, Certified LeSS Trainer and Coach walks us through some of the common difficulties when scaling Scrum across organisations. Visit https://www.sheev.co.uk for more expert insights and advice on LeSS.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱!
Ben Maynard
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💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
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People often ask why I fell in love with Large Scale Scrum (LeSS) and what my experiences have been with this framework. It's been a journey that started with my first delivery opportunity for a large bank and a rewarding journey that has allowed me to witness heaps of opportunities, benefits and success. In this short video, I share my experiences with Large Scale Scrum and provide some insights into why this is such a great framework. Visit https://www.sheev.co.uk for more expert insights and advice on LeSS.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱!
Ben Maynard
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/
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💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
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Today's show focuses on an introduction to LeSS, also known as Large Scale Scrum. Ben Maynard introduces the framework and explains why it is considered to be one of the most Agile Scrum-based approaches to achieving business agility and hyper-productive, creative and collaborative teams.
Visit https://www.sheev.co.uk for more LeSS thought-leadership, services and training.
Host Bio
Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes.
Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱!
Ben Maynard
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/benmaynard-sheev/
🐦 https://x.com/BenWMaynard
💻 https://sheev.co.uk/
Product Agility Podcast
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/company/productagilitypod/
💻 https://productagilitypod.co.uk/
🖇️ https://linktr.ee/productagility
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From the publisher's feed
Less Method. More Meaning.
The world of Product Discovery and Creation is becoming increasingly challenging due to mistakes and missed opportunities that are prevalent in agile…
The route of this for many is the need for more attention paid to the incredible advancements in Product Management driven by hordes of professional Product People who prove that making their customers happier is not a pipe dream but a hard and fast reality.
This podcast exists to explore all topics related to Product and Agility and Coaching.
How do you marry the agile principles with Product discovery?
Is it really possible to have hundreds of cross-functional teams (or Product Teams) all working from an effectively prioritised single Product Backlog and a dedicated Product Owner?
How can you embrace continuous improvement and empirical process control for your product, people and processes?
Ever wondered how to overcome the problems people face when trying to scale the Product Owner role and how it relates to Product Management and Product Teams?
Baffled by how to define a product in such a way that enables Feature Teams (aka Product Teams) and why doing wrong means you will only ever be stuck with technical teams?
Scrum Teams are not compatible with modern product management techniques.
Want to know what Product Focus means and how the right focus makes creating a shippable product less painful?
Need to get your head around how to blend modern product management techniques with Sprint Planning and Sprint Reviews to achieve Product Increments that cover the entire product?
This podcast's original focus was on Scaling Scrum vs Single-Team Scrum and how organisations can reap the benefits of Scrum when working on a larger product but still keeping a single product backlog. We found many Product People liked what we said, and then the penny dropped. This isn't a podcast about scaling Scrum or the limitations of single-team Scrum.
This podcast is for Product People & agile advocates who coach or get their hands dirty with Product creation.
We promise there is no Taboo topic that we will not explore on your behalf.
We aim to transcend the conversations about a single team, Daily Scrums, Scrum Masters and the double-diamond and bring everyone together into responsible teams dedicated to working on the entire product to make their customers happier and their lives more fulfilling.
Come and join us on our improvement towards perfection, and give us your feedback (we have a strong customer focus, too), and who knows, perhaps we will discover the magic wand that we can wave over all the broken agile and sudo-products to create a more resilient and adaptable future by bringing the worlds of Product, Agility and coaching together.
This podcast has the conversations and insights you need.