Gareth Kelly from the Music Venue Trust joins us to untangle the mystery of PRS and explain how your favourite bands actually get paid. It'll all make perfect sense... probably.

Gav delivers some all-time premium waffle and the excitement for Trees reaches fever pitch.

Oh, and how did Gav end up in an American's basement at 4am on a Thursday??

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We go again, every Thursday morning.