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…With Amy Sayer
Amy Sayer is a mental health and neurodiversity consultant and former secondary school senior leader. This episode discusses the growing mental health crisis among young people, highlighting challenges in accessing CAMHS support, with only 36% of referrals receiving help. Amy emphasises schools' critical role in supporting student wellbeing, advocating for both a meaningful mental health curriculum and a positive whole-school culture. Amy also addresses staff wellbeing, inclusivity for neurodivergent students, and funding gaps. The conversation centres on her book, How to Build a Meaningful Mental Health Curriculum: A Practical Guide for Schools, offering practical support for educators.
Amy's Book - How to Build a Meaningful Mental Health Curriculum: A Practical Guide for Schools: https://www.sagepub.com/shop/buy-a-book/how-to-build-a-meaningful-mental-health-curriculum-1-292569
Amy's Website: https://amy-sayer.com/
Hub of Hope: https://hubofhope.co.uk/
Episode with Reinhard Pekrun: https://changingstatesofmind.libsyn.com/exploring-the-complex-role-of-emotions-in-student-motivation-performance-and-well-being
Episode in bullet points:
Amy Sayer's background in education and mental health leadership.
Overview of her book, "How to Build a Meaningful Mental Health Curriculum: A Practical Guide for Schools."
Current state of young people's mental health and challenges in accessing services like CAMHS.
Societal factors contributing to mental health issues among youth, including poverty and social media.
The role of schools and teachers in supporting mental health, especially when external services are limited.
Importance of staff mental health and creating a supportive school environment.
Strategies for developing a positive mental health culture in schools.
The need for an inclusive mental health curriculum that addresses diverse student needs.
Systemic barriers to delivering effective mental health support in educational settings.
The significance of funding for mental health training and resources in schools.
…with Professor Reinhard Pekrun
In this episode, Professor Reinhard Pekrun discusses the critical role emotions play in academic settings. Drawing on his Control-Value Theory, he explains how emotions influence students' learning, motivation, and well-being. Pekrun challenges the oversimplified view that positive emotions always help and negative ones always hinder learning, emphasising context and intensity as key factors. He also highlights teachers' emotional impact on students and outlines six instructional strategies to foster positive emotional experiences. The episode concludes with practical insights for educators on supporting students' emotional health while maintaining their own enthusiasm and avoiding burnout.
Links:
Reinhard Pekrun: https://www.essex.ac.uk/people/PEKRU37203/Reinhard-Pekrun
Book: Emotion in Education. by Paul Schutz (Editor), Reinhard Pekrun (Editor), Gary D. Phye (Series Editor): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Emotion-Education-Educational-Psychology/dp/0123725453
Emotions in Learning, Unesco: https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000227679
Episode in Bullet points:
The role of emotions in education and their impact on learning and academic performance.
The relationship between students' emotional states and their motivation, self-regulation, and engagement.
The categorization of emotions into positive and negative, and their effects on learning outcomes.
The significance of context, intensity, and task demands in understanding emotional impacts on students.
The historical focus of educational research on cognitive processes, with a recent shift towards recognizing the importance of emotions.
...with Professor David Putwain
In this episode, Professor David Putwain, from Liverpool John Moores University, shares his expertise and insights into test anxiety. Drawing on over 23 years of research, David explains the distinction between stress and anxiety, debunks the myth that moderate anxiety improves performance, and estimates that up to 20% of secondary students are significantly affected. He discusses how the UK's high-stakes exam culture amplifies pressure and outlines practical, evidence-based strategies to support students, including breathing techniques and cognitive-behavioural approaches. David also highlights available resources for teachers, parents, and students.
Links mentioned:
David's Book: Understanding and Helping to Overcome Exam Anxiety: What Is It, Why Is It Important and Where Does It Come From? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Helping-Overcome-Exam-Anxiety/dp/103271638X
BPS Toolkit: https://cms.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/2025-04/Teachers%20Toolkit%20-%20Effective%20Coping%20With%20Exam%20Pressure.pdf
Ofqual Guidance: Coping with exam pressure - a guide for students: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coping-with-exam-pressure-a-guide-for-students/coping-with-exam-pressure-a-guide-for-students
Lucinda's Book Overcoming exam anxiety and stress: https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/lucinda-powell/overcoming-exam-anxiety-and-stress/9781408783450/
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...with Dr Jonathan Firth
In this episode Jonathon Firth, a Principal Teaching Fellow at the University of Strathclyde and former secondary psychology teacher, discusses the major academic transition students face when moving from secondary school to higher education. Jonathon shares critical insights into why top-performing school students often experience an academic "shock" at university, the shift from exam-focused criteria to self-directed, original analysis, and the unique disadvantages faced by first-generation students lacking "cultural capital" .
The conversation explores practical, research-backed strategies for developing essential study habits, including effective note-taking, active reading, and structured writing reflection . Jonathon also addresses modern learning hurdles—such as digital distractions, declining reading habits, and the rise of AI—while advocating for cross-curricular creativity and sustained metacognition . Rather than treating study skills as a one-time orientation activity, Jonathon emphasises embedding metacognitive awareness continuously throughout a student's schooling to foster independent, future-ready learners .
Links to Jonathan's Books and to sign up for his newsletter can found here: https://jonathanfirth.co.uk/
Jonathan's previous interview on metacognition can be found here: https://changingstatesofmind.libsyn.com/learning-to-learn
Please do sign up for the Psychology in the Classroom newsletter here: https://changingstatesofmind.com/contact-me
Key Takeaways:
Bridging the Assessment Gap: Secondary education often rewards compliance and specific exam marking criteria, whereas university success hinges on holistic grading, original thesis generation, and self-directed research .
Moving Beyond Verbatim Notes & Skimming: Effective note-taking requires deep cognitive processing and concept extraction rather than transcription . Active reading and scheduled reviews combat the natural "forgetting curve" .
Building Knowledge & Cultural Capital: True creativity and critical thinking are not isolated, transferable skills; they rely on deep foundational knowledge, interdisciplinary connections, and broad reading .
Metacognition as a Continuous Habit: Understanding how learning works—recognizing forgetting, self-evaluating strategies, and managing cognitive load—should be built iteratively into teaching across all key stages .
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...with Angela Myers
In this episode, Angela, an educator with 60 years of experience spanning primary, secondary, further and community education shares her thoughts on classroom observations. Having held roles from classroom teacher through to Deputy Principal at Solihull College, Angela brings a remarkable depth of knowledge to one of the most talked-about — and often dreaded — aspects of teaching: the lesson observation. Whether you're a classroom teacher who feels a knot in your stomach every time someone walks through your door with a clipboard, a middle leader tasked with observing your colleagues for the first time, or a senior leader trying to build a culture where professional learning is genuinely valued, this episode has something for you.
What we cover:
...with Dr Diana Sorrentino
In this episode, Dr. D, an expert on gender diversity and transgender identities with over 40 years of experience, explores gender identity's neurobiological foundations, social influences, and evolving terminology. Dr. D shares her personal journey, explains foetal development and intersex variations, and discusses support strategies for transgender youth. She highlights the critical role of family acceptance, outlines age-appropriate medical guidelines, and emphasises that gender diversity is a natural, biological phenomenon. The episode encourages educators to examine their biases and seek reliable resources to better support gender-diverse individuals.
Paradoxes of Gender Podcast can be found here: https://paradoxesofgender.com/podcasts-1 or on whichever platform you get your podcasts.
Dr D's Books are available via her website: https://paradoxesofgender.com/books
WPATH website is: https://wpath.org/
Episode in bullet points:
With Prof Edmund Sonuga Barke and Dr. Susie Chandler.
This episode marks the end of the series of podcasts on the RE-STAR project. In this final episode we discuss the four-and-a-half-year research initiative supporting neurodivergent adolescents with ADHD and autism. The discussion covers how the project shifted focus from internal emotion dysregulation to the school environment's role in mental health, introducing the concept of "emotional burden." Key findings include the importance of teacher understanding, consistent accommodations, and moving away from deficit-based language. The episode concludes with an introduction to their intervention, Place Positive, designed to foster inclusive school cultures and reduce emotional burden for neurodivergent students.
More information about the RE-STAR project and Place Positive can be found here: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/re-star
You can listen to the 8 other episodes in the RE-STAR series here: https://changingstatesofmind.com/re-star-project
The episode in bullet points:
...with Ann-Kathrin Krause
In this episode, Ann-Katrin Krause, a PhD student in educational psychology at the Leibniz Institute for Research and Information in Education in Frankfurt, discusses her research on the role of habits in students' learning strategy use, exploring why students often default to ineffective strategies like rereading despite knowing better alternatives exist. The conversation covers how environmental cues trigger habitual behaviours, the distinction between automaticity and effectiveness, and practical strategies like habit stacking and if-then planning. Ann-Katrin also highlights how teachers can foster effective study habits by embedding strategies into classroom routines.
Ann-Kathrin Research can be found here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10648-025-10087-3
Futher reading is available here:
Gardner, B., & Rebar, A. L. (2019). Habit formation and behavior change. Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Psychology. Oxford University Press. https://doi.org/10.1093/acrefore/9780190236557.013.129
Gardner, B., Rebar, A. L., De Wit, S., & Lally, P. (2024). What is habit and how can it be used to change real-world behaviour? Narrowing the theory–reality gap. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 18(6), 1–17. https://doi.org/10.1111/spc3.12975
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...with Hannah Brownhill
To kick off the summer term, Hannah Brownhill, a positive psychology practitioner and former secondary teacher shares her insights into embedding wellbeing in to schools through positive psychology.
Following her Churchill Fellowship research in Australia, Hannah shares how schools can move beyond "wellbeing as an add-on" to create a culture of genuine flourishing. This episode explores the PERMA framework, the power of character strengths, and the systemic shifts needed in UK education. Hannah also offers practical, classroom-ready strategies for teachers, alongside honest reflections on the systemic challenges facing UK schools and encouragement to start small, prioritising your own wellbeing first.
Key Discussion PointsThe Australian Model: Insights from schools successfully embedding positive education into their DNA.
The PERMA Framework: Breaking down the five pillars of wellbeing: Positive Emotion, Engagement, Relationships, Meaning, and Accomplishment.
Strengths-Based Teaching: How shifting our language from deficits to strengths transforms classroom dynamics.
Staff First: Why teacher wellbeing is the essential foundation for student flourishing.
The PERMA Framework: https://ppc.sas.upenn.edu/learn-more/perma-theory-well-being-and-perma-workshops
Character Strengths Guide: https://www.viacharacter.org/character-strengths-and-virtues
Churchill Fellowship Research: https://www.churchillfellowship.org/ideas-experts/fellows-directory/hannah-brownhill/
Bullet point summary:
Kicking off the summer term, this episode features two brilliant sixth-form students sharing their passion for psychology. Estelle, a year 13 student unpacks the multi-store model of memory, offering teachers genuinely practical strategies around attention, rehearsal, and retrieval practice to support student learning. Then Charlie, a Year 12 student, explores the exciting and thought-provoking role of AI in psychotherapy, examining how technology is making mental health support more accessible and affordable. Together, they demonstrate just how dynamic and relevant psychology is today — a timely reminder of the incredible thinking happening in our classrooms.
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