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Episode 20 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

 In this episode, Chuck and Danny begin with a discussion of their shared horror over the devastating earthquakes in Turkey and Syria and deepest sympathy for the people affected. They further discuss the IDF emergency search and rescue team dispatched to Turkey, whether it is likely to have an impact on Israeli-Turkish relations, and the fact that Israel itself, which is geologically “overdue” to be hit by a major earthquake, is woefully unprepared. 

Sharp differences emerge as they turn to recent events in the Palestinian arena, the reasons for the ongoing conflict and potential resolutions. Although Chuck agrees with Danny that Palestinian rejectionism and terrorism have had a devastating impact on Israeli attitudes towards the peace process, he notes that one cannot ignore the similar impact that Israel’s settlement activities have had on the Palestinian side. 

Both agree that Sec. Blinken’s recent visit to Israel was highly unusual, with the US expressing strong criticism of Israel in a number of crucial areas, including the planned judicial changes and impact on Israeli democracy. Whereas Danny is more confident, Chuck believes that Israel’s policies, both in regard to the Palestinians and now the planned judicial changes, threaten Israel’s fundamental character as a state and pose a threat to the future of the “special relationship”.

They also disagree over the ramifications of the new government’s policies on ties with Arab states, especially the Gulf states. Although Danny acknowledges problems with Jordan, he believes that the damage with the rest will not be significant. Chuck is far more concerned and believes that the relationship will likely be impaired significantly. 

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Episode 19 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this episode, Chuck and Danny discuss three critical issues: US-Israeli relations; Israel’s policies regarding the war in Ukraine, and its domestic crisis. They also conduct a fascinating conversation with Abe Foxman, one of the great American Jewish leaders of our time.

Both Chuck and Danny are concerned about growing tensions in US-Israeli relations. Chuck was concerned that a crisis, which was brewing in any event, has now been greatly exacerbated by the new government’s policies towards the Palestinians and the “judicial reform” now underway. Danny is more hopeful that these differences can be managed. Chuck raises an interesting question, whether Netanyahu and Biden can work out a grand bargain: Netanyahu promises to keep a lid on the extremists in the new government, both on the Palestinian and domestic issues, in exchange for an American commitment to supply critical military capabilities that Israel needs to carry out a possible attack against the Iranian nuclear program (e.g. modern aerial tankers), if necessary, and at least partial backing for it.

Chuck and Danny reverse their typical positions on the war in Ukraine. Danny is open to changes in Israel’s positions and possible supply of weapons to Ukraine. Chuck takes the more hawkish position, that the same considerations that led Israel to limit its support for Ukraine to humanitarian aid, to date, have not changed and should not, unless Russia provides Iran with nuclear assistance.

Foxman elaborated on his controversial recent statement, that his unconditional lifelong support for Israel has now become conditional. “We always said that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East...If just half of the coalition agreements happen, it will change the nature of democracy in Israel… If Israel is redefining who is a Jew, why would diaspora Jews identify with it?... American Jews love Israel, but if Israel doesn’t love them back…”

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Episode 18 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this episode of the IDDF Podcast, Chuck and Danny discuss two very different issues; the dramatic changes that Israel’s new government has already begun making to its judicial and democratic processes and China’s rising influence in the Middle East, following the recent visit of President Xi to Saudi Arabia.

The new government is moving rapidly to pass legislation that will dramatically alter the role of Israel’s judiciary and the balance of powers. If, as appears likely, the legislation goes through, Chuck believes that Israel will have become an illiberal democracy, akin to Turkey and Hungary, within a matter of weeks. 

In effect, Israel will have only one branch of government, the executive, which will control both the legislative and judicial branches and in which those under indictment, including the premier, appoint their own judges. 

Danny agrees regarding the primary reform, the so-called “override law”, but sees merit to at least some of the other changes. He is particularly concerned by the proposed reforms’ impact on Israel’s international standing, including the danger of Israel being referred to the International Court of Justice. Both are deeply concerned by the politicization of Israel’s civil service and breakup of ministries for purely political purposes. 

China is rapidly becoming a major player in the Middle East, no longer just in terms of oil imports, but regional security affairs, as well. Xi’s visit to Saudi Arabia was designed at least partly as a counterbalance to China’s ties with Iran. Chuck emphasizes that one of the reasons for the Gulf countries’ interest in expanded ties with China is their decreasing confidence in the US security commitment to them and the understanding that Israel, especially under the new government, cannot constitute even a substitute for the US. Danny starts a discussion of the impact of US-Chinese ties on US ties with Israel, including the Phalcon case, one of the worst crises in US-Israeli relations. 

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Episode 17 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington.

In this podcast, Chuck and Danny discuss what being pro-Israel means today and the role of AIPAC and JStreet. Although Chuck comes from Israel’s center-left and Danny from the center-right, in this week’s podcast they are in almost full accord. Both are strong supporters of AIPAC and believe that JStreet plays a deeply harmful role.

Chuck agrees with J Street substantively on some of the issues, especially the need for a two-state solution and, at least until recently, the need to return to the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal). Nevertheless, both he and Danny strongly agree that the place to change Israel’s policies is in Israel and not by lobbying the USgovernment against the democratically elected government of Israel.

Both Chuck and Danny believe that JStreet causes a split in the pro-Israel lobby that greatly weakens the strength of the US-Israeli relationship, one of the fundamental pillars of Israel’s national security and, as such, that it constitutes a threat to Israel’s security.Whereas AIPAC is largely responsible for the $170 billion in US aid that Israel will have received by the end of the current 10-year package, JStreet has yet to account for one cent of that. Moreover, JStreet is essentially a 2 issue organization - the Palestinian issue and blind support for the Iran nuclear deal – without recognizing that Israel is much more than that, a complex array of domestic and foreign issues.

Both Chuck and Danny fully recognize the right ofall Americans, Jewish and otherwise, to expresscriticism of Israel, much as Israeli Jews do, but believe that JStreet has crossed a line and simply become an anti-Israel organization. Danny begins the discussion by talking about the history of Zionism and what it means and argues that there is no Judaism today without Israel.Chuck could not agree more.

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Episode 16 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this episode of the IDDF Podcast, Chuck and Danny discuss the emerging crisis in US-Israeli relations, even before the new government has taken office. Prominent American Jews have already stated that their previously unconditional support for Israel is no longer such. Others have at least indirectly lent their support to the growing calls to condition US military aid to Israel, heretofore the sacrosanct bedrock of the bilateral relationship, on changes in its policies towards the Palestinians. Still others bemoan the loss of the Israel “we once knew”.

Chuck is more understanding of the sentiment behind these statements and Danny, as is his wont, takes it in greater stride, but both deeply deplore them. They agree that the importance of the Palestinian issue, notwithstanding, Israel is far more than a one-issue country and the relationship with the US is a critically important pillar of its national security. Israel still faces an existential threat from Iran, unprecedented destruction to its home front in the event of a further round with Hezbollah and an increasingly significant threat from Hamas.

They then turn to political developments and to the dismantlement of critical parts of Israel’s defense establishment and educational system, as political expedients, for purposes of coalition formation. On this issue, Danny is at least as concerned as Chuck. They then discuss a leak of the IDF Chief of Staff’s (CoS) strong opposition to the impending changes, bordering on an unprecedented refusal to accept civilian oversight of the military. Danny tries to downplay the leak, while Chuck, who fully sympathizes with the CoS’ dilemma, is more troubled by the ramifications for Israel’s democracy. Both agree that the political meddling in critical governmental systems is unacceptable.

The podcast concludes on a positive note, with a discussion of new developments in Israel’s laser air-defense capabilities and US-Israeli cooperation in this critical area. 

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Episode 15 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this special episode, Chuck interviews Danny about his experiences as Israel’s ambassador to the United States and what it was like when he first arrived in Washington. Danny served as ambassador under three different premiers, Benjamin Netanyahu, Ehud Barack and Ariel Sharon, during the presidency of George Bush. 

He describes his sense of awe when first arriving in Washington and his experiences meeting with the president, Secretaries of State Powell and Rice, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and others. A number of particularly important issues arose during his time in Washington, including the second intifada, Gulf War and war in Lebanon, as well as Israel’s decision to attack the Syrian nuclear reactor. Danny also shared some of the fascinating personal and professional insights he derived from this period.

The podcast begins with a discussion of some of the major developments in recent weeks. Chuck expresses his deep concern over the already rising violence in the West Bank, even before the new government has taken over, including the appointment of radical new ministers who will intentionally fan the flames. He also foresees that their actions will spark the next conflict with Hamas, in a matter of weeks or months, and that this conflict may spread to Hezbollah and endanger the future of the Palestinian Authority. Danny shares some of Chuck’s concerns, but believes that we can count on the experience and wisdom of Prime Minister Netanyahu to counterbalance the dangers. Chuck likens Danny’s optimism to that of the Titanic’s captain. 

Chuck and Danny then engage in a discussion of the latest developments in regard to Iran, including its decision to enrich uranium at the 60% level and spar once again over the options available to Israel and the US. Chuck believes that the approach adopted by Netanyahu and Trump was a typical example of right-wing overreach and utter failure. They correctly identified the problem, but set unrealistic goals, without a serious attempt to think things through and weigh the different options, and we are now paying the price in the form of Iran’s enrichment and more. Both agree that Iran will be a primary focus of Netanyahu’s new term as premier and that possible strains to the US-Israeli relationship will affect this. 

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Episode 14 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and usually, Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

But in this episode, Benjamin Anthony, co-chair of the Miryam Institute, sits in for Danny, who lost his voice to a cold and we wish him a speedy recovery. 

Chuck and Benjamin focus on the election fallout in the US and Israel, particularly their impact on the US-Israeli relationship and Israel’s national security. 

Chuck fears  Israel’s legal and democratic systems may be stressed to breaking point by the new ultra-right coalition and that the two-state solution may now be effectively dead, with extreme ramifications for Israel’s future character as a state and the US-Israeli relationship. 

Benjamin shares some of his misgivings regarding the new coalition, but believes that Prime Minister Netanyahu will govern responsibly and effectively. He also believes that there are better alternatives to the two-state solution and welcomes its demise. 

On Iran, Chuck and Benjamin agree that the 2015 JCPOA nuclear deal probably can’t be revived, possibly resulting in a heightened need for military action. 

But for the first time since the Iranian revolution in 1979, the street demonstrations in Iran may now hold out hope for regime change. 

Both Chuck and Benjamin are deeply worried by the rise of antisemitism in the US.

Benjamin concludes the podcast by telling the heart-wrenching story of how his brother, Jonathan, was beaten mercilessly by an antisemitic gang. 

He invites listeners to participate, in person or by Zoom, in a special event on anti-Semitism hosted by the Miryam Institute in New York, on December 7th at 530. NY Times columnist, Brett Stephens, former Israeli ambassador to Washington, Michael Oren, former US special envoy for anti-Semitism and Benjamin will be the discussants.

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Episode 13 of the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this podcast, Chuck and Danny discuss the outcome of Israel’s elections. Chuck is deeply concerned that the ultra right-wing sweep endangers Israel’s character as a liberal democracy and the rule of law. Danny is more sanguine, believing that Israel has gotten through tough times before and that its democratic and legal institutions are more resilient. They agree that the differences between the outgoing and new governments on Iran may not prove that significant, but that with the demise of the Iran nuclear deal, the options are narrowing and the prospects of military action growing. They further agree that the elections may spell the end of the two state solution. For Chuck, that presents a major threat to Israel’s future as a democratic and predominantly Jewish state; Danny believes that creative solutions can still be found to avert the problem. Both agree that Israel’s relations with the US will take a hit, as will the unprecedented, warm relationship with the Abraham Accords states.

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This is the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington.

In this podcast, one in a multi-part series on US-Israeli relations, Chuck and Danny discuss what the term “special relationship” actually encompasses, including military aid and cooperation, joint strategic consultations and planning, the US commitment to Israel’s Qualitative Military Edge, strategic diplomatic cooperation and more. They attach particular important to one lesser-known but critical aspect of the relationship – the US veto in the Security Council, without which Israel would have been subject to sanctions decades ago, including over its purported nuclear capabilities.

Look out for their upcoming podcasts on the ramifications of Israel’s elections for its national security (out on November 4) and how the US mid-term elections will affect the bilateral relationship (out on November 18).

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This is the Israel Defense and Diplomacy Forum (IDDF) – with Prof. Chuck Freilich, former Israeli Deputy National Security Advisor, and Danny Ayalon, former Deputy Foreign Minister and Ambassador to Washington. 

In this podcast, the second in a multi-part series on the US-Israel “special relationship”,  Chuck and Danny discuss its three fundamental pillars - a shared heritage and values, strategic interests and the “Israel lobby”.

Scroll back to Episode 6 featuring Chuck and Danny with US peace envoy Dennis Ross for the first in this special series.

Future episodes will address what the special relationship actually encompasses, including military aid and cooperation, joint strategic consultations and planning, the US commitment to Israel’s Qualitative Military Edge, strategic diplomatic cooperation and more; what being pro-Israel means today; cases where the two sides have failed to live up to each other; and four critical questions for the future - whether the price of the relationship has been a significant loss of Israel’s independence and freedom of maneuver, whether Israel could even survive today without the US, where the relationship is heading and what can be done to preserve it for the long term.

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