Pulpit Fiction Podcast

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  • Ep. 38: JC- King of the Ring! or Christ the King/Proper 29C/Ordinary 34C/Pentecost +27

    Opening Music: Do Lord Remember Me by Mississippi John Hurt

    For Sunday, November 24

    • Luke 23:33-43 - Death of Jesus
    • Luke 1:68-79 - Zechariah's Canticle
    • Episode 38- Christ the King Sunday or Reign of Christ Sunday

      Welcome to the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, where two local pastors discuss the lectionary reading for the week.  Rooted in scholarship and grounded in progressive theology, we hope to keep the discussion lively, challenging, insightful, and from time to time a little humorous. This is episode 38 for Sunday November 24, Proper 29C, Ordinary 34C and 27 weeks after Pentecost also known as Christ the King Sunday. We will be discussing: 

      • Luke 23:33-43 - Death of Jesus
      • Luke 1:68-79 - Zechariah's Canticle

      • Check-in

        • Advent cometh! TNS plug? 
          • Thursday November 21, 2013
          • Christmas Songs before Dec 24?
          • Purple Candle Blue Candle?
          • Hope, Peace, Joy, Love or Patriarchs, Prophets, Angels, Shepherd? Hope, Search, Follow, Believe, Rejoice (from Ministry Matters)
          • #BeChristInChristmas
          • Fat Pastor Virtual Run to Bethlehem
          • All this and more!
          • Rachel Held Evans and the super boost - one week to share on facebook or twitter



          • Primary Scripture - Luke 23:33-43 - Death of Jesus

            • “father forgive them”- v. 34
              • not included in earliest manuscripts
              • echo of Stephens prayer in Acts 7:60
              • Characteristic of Jesus who often to prayed to God as “Father” and the theme of forgiveness is definitely consistent.
              • Escalating violence
                • leaders make fun of/scoff
                • soldiers ridicule/mock
                • criminal blasphemes/derides
                  • questions Jesus as the Messiah
                    • is concerned only for his physical life
                    • he doesn't understand grace
                    • grace is not a ticket away from judgement, but through
                    • doesn’t want to pay for his crimes
                    • Kingdom of the world
                      • “save yourself”
                      • Beaten, mocked, humiliated
                      • anger
                      • vengeance
                      • outrage
                      • Kingdom of God
                        • “give yourself”
                        • forgiveness
                        • forbearance
                        • patience
                        • empathy
                        • What is the Kingdom of God like?
                          • Bless those who persecute you and curse you (6:28)
                          • a wasteful son returning to a father’s loving arms
                          • a shepherd searching for one lost sheep
                          • a weed grown in a garden to provide shelter for the birds
                          • a rich man’s feast opened to the poor and the lame
                          • “We would rather have had Jesus say that God loves the people we like and the people we say we are like, and that God does not love the people we do not like and the people we say are not like us. We would prefer if God did not love the crackheads and addicts, the adulterers, the thieves, the prostitutes, the rebellious teenagers, and the disgruntled employees. We would prefer it if paradise were exclusively for the nice people, the clean people, the polite people, the well-behaved people, the right people.” - Nancy Lynn Westfield, Feasting on the Word: Preaching the Revised Common Lectionary - Feasting on the Word – Year C, Volume 4: Season After Pentecost 2 (Propers 17-Reign of Christ).
                          • Secondary scripture - Luke 1:68-79 - Zechariah's Canticle/Benedictus

                            • Zechariah’s Canticle
                              • Year C Advent 2 - about bringing a new era about
                              • honors the birth of John the Baptist
                              • Mainly about Jesus whom John will “prophesy” v. 77
                              • Zechariah means “God Remembered”
                                • God remembers the covenant with creation
                                • Jesus
                                  • mighty savior (69)
                                  • save from enemies (71)
                                  • give light to those who sit in darkness (v 79)
                                  • Guide people to peace (v. 79)
                                  • Different Theme from Mary’s Song (Which was Advent 4C)
                                    • Mary - Good news to the poor
                                    • Zechariah - Freedom for Israel
                                      • 68 - delivered God’s people
                                      • 71 - brought salvation from enemies
                                      • 72 - promise of ancestors and remembered his holy covenant
                                      • 74 - rescued from the power of our enemies
                                      • 79 - guide us on the path of peace 
                                        • In contrast to the Roman peace, which is no peace at all
                                        • Zechariah sees a mission for his son
                                          • Rejoices over the coming of his son.  He sees great promise in the child, and praises God.  
                                            • “Zechariah praised God when his son was born.  He praised God for the promises that God made.  He praised God for the promises that God kept. He praised God for the promise that was in his son.  For he knew that his son was created for a purpose.”  (Robb McCoy in “Declare that the Dawn is Coming”
                                            • “But I’m here to tell you that God rejoices no less for you than did Zechariah  for his son.  Zechariah so loved his son that he could glimpse him through God’s eternal eyes.  God so loves you that he has laid out a path for you to follow.  God has given you something that makes you uniquely you.  There is something in you that transcends employment, labels, gender, race, or status.  God has created you with a purpose, and is calling you to that purpose today.  You were created to do no less than John once did – to prepare the way of the Lord, and “to show the people the way to salvation through the forgiveness of sins.” (Robb McCoy in “Declare that the Dawn is Coming”
                                            • Closing - King of King and Lord of Lords by Zambian Acapella

                                              TY: listeners
                                              Opening Music: Do Lord Remember Me by Mississippi John Hurt
                                              Transition Music: King of King and Lord of Lords by Zambian Acapella
                                              Theme Music: Dick Dale and the Deltones “Misirlou”
                                              TY: Closing music, Paul and Storm, “Oh No”

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                                            • Ep. 37: THE END (of year C) IS NEAR! or Proper 28C / Ordinary 33C / Pentecost +26

                                              SHOW NOTES -  11/17/2013

                                              THE END (of year C) IS NEAR!

                                              • Luke 21:5-19 - Jesus warns about Temple and persecution
                                              • 2 Thessalonians 3:6-13 Warning against idleness

                                              • Opening Music: Bang on the Drum All Day by Todd Rundgren
                                                For Sunday, November 17
                                                Episode 37 - Proper 28C / Ordinary 33C / 26 weeks after Pentecost

                                                Check-in

                                                • Second to last week of year C- thinking of Advent?
                                                • Movember!
                                                • Primary Scripture -– Luke 21:5-19  - Warning of Temple and persecution

                                                  • Interesting passage for pre-Thanksgiving post Stewardship
                                                  • The riches of the temple are not important - they will be thrown down (but my words will not pass away v 33)
                                                  • The following is a response to the disciples question:
                                                    • False prophets claiming the time is near
                                                    • Wars
                                                    • Earthquakes
                                                    • famines
                                                    • plagues
                                                    • Persecution
                                                    • betrayal
                                                    • in short - YOU WILL NOT KNOW!
                                                    • The disciples are not asking about the end time, but of the destruction of the temple- all of which happened in 70 CE about 20 years before the Gospel of Luke was written.
                                                      • There is a triumphal arch in Rome depicting the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 CE.
                                                      • Josephus discusses a comet in the sky at the fall of the temple
                                                      • Rome surrounded Jerusalem before besieging and sacking it
                                                      • What should amazing us? The beauty of the temple or the love and grace of God?
                                                      • “Do not be terrified”
                                                        • So much fear about the end of the world
                                                          • terrorism
                                                          • global warming
                                                          • ZOMBIES!
                                                          • Opportunity
                                                          • Endurance- steadfast faithfulness
                                                            • not “"Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die" (Isa. 22:13; 1 Cor. 15:32)
                                                            • Thomas Jefferson Learning Greek on his death bed
                                                            • Martin Luther planting his apple tree on judgement day - remain vigilant
                                                            • We are not in control. Only God is.
                                                            • How do we testify in the midst of persecution?
                                                            • We are called to be faithful and to trust God- are we content with trusting God?
                                                            • Song connections:
                                                              • Tim McGraw - Live Like You Were Dying
                                                              • Garth Brooks - If Tomorrow Never Comes 
                                                              • Secondary scripture - 2 Thessalonians 3:6-13 - Warning against idleness

                                                                • Cannot remove 2 Thess from historical context
                                                                  • There is a challenging question surrounding 2 Thessalonians: “What significance does this letter have for the life of the church two millennia after its composition?  [It] plainly reflects an atmosphere in which believers are experiencing persecution.  The situation has become so intense that some believers cope with it by imagining that the “day of the Lord is already here” (2:2), while others refuse to participate in the world of work (3:6-16).  The author probably imagines that his enraged reminders about God’s inevitable justice will serve to comfort his audience; however, those same reminders sound a harsh note for readers removed from [its] time and situation.”  Beverly Roberts Gaventa (Interpretation: First and Second Thessalonians, p. 95) 
                                                                  • Rep. Kevin Cramer quoted this verse in response to someone posting Matthew 25:36-43 on his Facebook page
                                                                    • Using this passage to moralize against the poor is to misuse the text.  This ignores the whole of Scripture that commends people to give away their wealth in support of the poor.  
                                                                    • This cannot be used as proof that poor people are lazy, and should thus be ignored (or worse).  The ultimate goal of this admonition is to bring the people back into the community.
                                                                      • First two chapters deal with outside pressure and reliance upon God.  Chapter 3 shifts to inner workings of the community.
                                                                        • Warning against idleness and undisciplined
                                                                          • Beverly Gaventa, in Texts for Preaching, stresses that ataktos is about behavior that is “insubordinate or irresponsible” (p. 599).
                                                                          • Idleness takes the shape of eating the food of others, but it goes to a deeper motivation that is detrimental to the community.
                                                                          • Especially in times of persecution, both physical and economic, this behavior goes deeper than being “lazy.”
                                                                          • Unknown motivation for this behavior
                                                                            • Is it linked to thinking “The day of the Lord has come”? So there is no need to put in the work for a long-term commitment?
                                                                            • Are they so discouraged by persecution that there is no motivation to participate.
                                                                              • Being a part of the community requires something in return.
                                                                                • Appeals to “tradition,” of the apostles.
                                                                                • There are responsibilities that come along with being part of the community
                                                                                • Adam Hamilton paraphrase: “Your privileges are revoked upon membership.  You lose the good parking place. You lose the good seats.  You lose the good worship times.”
                                                                                • Michael Kinnamon paraphrase: “What is your responsibility as a person in the community to participate in the act of worship?  You are cheating others of your presence, gifts, and talents when you are not at the table.”
                                                                                • putting their own food on the table, not their table - the communal table
                                                                                • The question should not be, “Do I need to go to church today?” but instead, “Who needs me to be there in worship today?”
                                                                                  • Being judgmental vs using good judgment
                                                                                    • To a comfortable, middle class Christian, this seems like advice to be the worst kind of Christian.
                                                                                      • Feel like passive-aggressive shunning.
                                                                                      • Being judgmental is not a Christian virtue.  Jesus warned against pointing out the speck in your neighbor’s eye.
                                                                                      • What about when one’s actions are detrimental to the community?
                                                                                        • This advice does not include public shame
                                                                                        • All directions are to reminders to keep the faith, not to admonish those that are struggling.
                                                                                        • The “undisciplined life” includes “meddling in other people’s business.”
                                                                                        • Closing - Get Together by the Youngbloods
                                                                                          TY: listeners

                                                                                          Opening music:Bang on the Drum All Day by Todd Rundgren
                                                                                          Transition Music: Get Together by the Youngbloods
                                                                                          Theme Music: Dick Dale and the Deltones “Misirlou”
                                                                                          TY: Closing music, Paul and Storm, “Oh No”

                                                                                          Contact us/ Leave comments: 
                                                                                          Shout outs:  Diann Bailey, who made it her personal mission to get us to 200 Facebook likes this week.  Mission accomplished! We’re at 201.  We are so glad she’s on our side.  Kory Trinrud, who gave us another 5-star iTunes review and claims that Pulpit Fiction makes her smarter.  Look at the big brain on Kory!

                                                                                          Check out our latest interview with Rachel Held Evans! Retweet or share on Facebook our original posting of that interview for a chance to win a signed copy of Evolving in Monkey Town by Rachel Held Evans

                                                                                          Pulpitfiction.us, @pulpitfpodcast, facebook.com/pulpitfiction, iTunes, [email protected].

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