“You Can’t Train Flow — You Can Only Stop Interrupting It”

In this special episode, the tables turn — Piers becomes the guest.

After saying yes to a 750km cycling challenge from Milan to Rome, Piers explores with his years of understanding “Before Psychology,” how the mind can still weave its illusions — of fear, striving, and self-doubt. What unfolds is a personal, honest and often funny exploration of how the illusion of self, the myth of control, and the nature of flow play out in real life.

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A personal story of saying “yes” to a challenge for aliveness, not ego.

How the Quality of Mind realization of Real but Never True applies when your legs burn or a descent feels scary.

Why experts “see” fewer hazards—and how that translates to leadership.

What flow actually feels like on the bike and a simple, everyday way to notice what doesn’t come and go—without a bike or Italy

You’ll get:

A relatable breakdown of the mental side of riding: climbs, descents, headwinds, skills.

How perception (your “aperture”) can make a hill look steeper—or simpler—without changing your fitness.

A practical pointer to find more calm and flow on rides and in life, with no hacks or rituals.

You’ll hear:

Lived examples of Before Psychology in a “physical” domain.

Subtle ego re-appearances (“managing the cyclist” vs training the body).

Oneness & flow as non-identification, not state chasing.

How the ego subtly reappears as the voice of “trying your hardest.”

What “real but never true” means when your legs are burning on a climb.

Why flow can’t be trained — only revealed by stopping interference.

How the same insight that transforms leadership also transforms cycling.

And why aliveness doesn’t come from comfort or discomfort — but from seeing what’s truly before both.

It’s a personal glimpse behind the mic — a lived demonstration of what “Before Psychology” looks like when rubber meets the road.

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🧭 Episode Summary

In this open and thought-provoking episode, Piers welcomes Adam Shuty to discuss his diverse journey from martial arts, to standup comedy, and his current enterprise, Everest Longevity. Having explored decades of personal development, performance psychology, and transformation work, Adam wanted to know: What exactly is this “Before Psychology” thing? His immediate resonance with the conversation signalled there was more to see. 

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🧭 Episode Summary

In this practical-meets-profound conversation, Piers welcomes back Craig to explore how people can genuinely love the work part of work—not by adding hacks and perks, but by subtracting what obscures our natural flow.

Craig shares his new venture, Love Your Work, and a simple doorway into effortless productivity: Rather than pushing or “trying harder,” we explore how work becomes energising when the self isn’t busy resisting or controlling. Expect a grounded entry point that naturally points upstream to the deeper Before Psychology understanding—so the benefits don’t stop at a better half-hour block, they recalibrate how you work and live.

We cover:

Subtraction over addition: Why real engagement comes from removing friction, not adding pool tables, perks, or more process.

The OFF Method: A practical way to turn everyday tasks and meetings into “objective meditation”—revealing the system’s built-in intelligence.

From trying to allowing: How “trying” creates dissatisfaction and worse results, while allowing reveals presence, ease, and better outcomes.

Aperture & flow at work: Why the same spreadsheet can feel draining one day and enlivening the next—clue: it’s not the spreadsheet.

Art, sport & emergence: Brilliance arrives when the personal self steps aside 

From practice to default: Start with a doorway like OFF; let it point you to upstream seeing so flow becomes the baseline, not a borrowed state.

🔎 For listeners who:

Sense there’s more to work than grinding—and want results with ease, not instead of ease.

Lead teams and are tired of context-switching, Slack pings, and “performative productivity.”

Want a non-woo, practical entry to deeper insight that actually improves delivery, wellbeing, and culture.

Are curious about non-duality/Before Psychology but prefer a work-first, lived experience

🧩 Mentioned in the episode

Love Your Work — Craig’s new venture (how to make work itself your source of wellbeing).

The OFF Method (Objective • Focus • Flow) — simple instructions, profound implications.

Aperture / Self-identification / Is-ness — the upstream principles behind effortless performance.

Cold-shower / Urge-surfing analogy — leaning into sensation vs. conceptualising it.

✉️ Connect & Learn More from Craig

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Video: Why Do We Describe Quality of Mind as Before Psychology? — clear 2-min intro

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Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

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Ep 14:  ''A Business Owner Reflects on the Real Impact of Quality of Mind (5min)

What if the life you thought was already great… could feel even more alive, connected, and easeful?

In this short testimonial episode, Chris, a successful business owner, shares how the Quality of Mind programme revealed a whole new way of being. Not by adding tools or strategies, but by subtracting the misunderstandings that cloud our experience, and how he wishes he'd done it sooner in life

Listen in as he reflects on:

A beautifully grounded and human account of what becomes possible when we see Before Psychology.

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Leading from Your Highest Frequency: The Shift That Changes Everything - What if the secret to transformation wasn’t more effort, but less?

In this conversation, Piers is joined by Carolina—a self-described “quantum-preneur” and lifelong system challenger—to explore what lies beyond the conventional narrative of psychological effort, productivity, and leadership. T

Drawing on examples from nature, frequency science, and lived experience, they examine what it means to lead from the inside-out, why presence is more powerful than personality, and how leadership shifts when we stop managing our minds and start tuning into a deeper field of intelligence.

Listen in to explore and unravel the deeper intelligence of frequency, presence, and felt experience.

This episode covers:

The Myth of Mental Effort: Why even brilliant, well-intentioned leaders feel trapped in a system of grind — and what opens up when we stop playing that game.

From Thinking to Feeling to Sensing: How most of what we call “feeling” is actually thought — and how to recalibrate to the real, felt experience beneath it.

Frequency & Flow: You’re not “low energy,” you’re just misaligned. The power of vibrational awareness and coherence in leadership.

Language Gets in the Way: When describing falls short, sensing takes over. Why flow, frequency, and state can’t be fully explained — but they can be known.

Nature as a Teacher: What horses, babies, and “cutting the tension in the room” show us about energetic leadership.

Leadership as State, Not Strategy: Your presence is doing the work. How your inner aperture influences everything around you.

We Are Not Broken — Just Desensitised: You don’t need fixing, you just need remembering. Reconnection, not self-improvement, is the path.

From Me to We: Why legacy isn't about doing more — it’s about being differently. The shift from personal success to embodied impact.

🔎 For Listeners Who:

Feel the weight of responsibility, but suspect there’s another way

Want to access their best-day leadership more consistently

Sense the limitations of conventional mindset tools

Are curious about how presence and frequency influence business, relationships, and wellbeing

Are ready to go beyond the conceptual and into direct experience

This episode is a invitation to stop efforting and start sensing. If you’re curious about what it means to live, lead, and create from an entirely different paradigm... this one’s for you.

🧭 Mentioned in the Episode:

Energy Fields & The Heart’s Intelligence: Why the heart’s magnetism matters more than the brain’s charge

Expanded vs Contracted Aperture: A Quality of Mind lens for understanding state and clarity

Cold Showers, Grounding & Nature: Simple ways to sense the raw intelligence of presence

Human Doings vs Human Beings: Why we’ve forgotten how to feel — and how to get it back

The Field is Always Working: But are we available to receive?

Feeling as Feedback: Using sensation as a gentle, impersonal indicator of aperture

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www.qualityofmind.biz – articles, explainer videos, and programme info

Video: Why Do We Describe Quality of Mind as Before Psychology? — clear 2-min intro

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In this expansive and exploratory conversation, Piers joins Dr Amy Johnson on the Changeable Podcast show for a deep dive into the lived reality of the Quality of Mind and Before Psychology understanding. Showing how through every day life relationships, desires, discomforts, and even minor eye-roll moments—functions as a mirror showing us where self identity is still subtly hiding.

The episode explores how our desires and reactions are not random or personal but invitations to notice where we are still believing in a separate self. 

Life is a Mirror: Everything—especially your desires, discomforts, and relationships—acts as a mirror showing where identity is still subtly hiding.

Desire is Not the Problem: Desire becomes a compass. Clean wants flow naturally; unclean ones reveal where the self is trying to prop itself up.

Feeling vs Thinking: Much of what we call “feeling” is actually conceptualisation. Real transformation begins when we stop analysing and start sensing.

Real but Never True: All experience is real but not objectively true. When seen from this lens, experience becomes less personal and more revealing.

Subtlety is the New Frontier: As our aperture widens, we become more attuned to the micro-resistances and subtle patterns where identity still hides.

There Is No Separate Self: The shift isn’t in fixing yourself—it’s in seeing that what you think you are never existed in the way it seemed.

Practical Non-Duality: These insights aren’t just philosophical—they profoundly shift parenting, working, relating, and even cooking dinner.

The System Learns Naturally: You don’t have to figure this out. When you're no longer distracted, the system shows you exactly what you need to see.

Silent Retreats: As a direct pointer to the parts of ourselves we habitually distract from

The Mirror Metaphor: A recurring theme—how life reflects our inner landscape back to us

“Clean” vs “Unclean” Desires: A practical tool for checking where we’re coming from

Parenting Examples: Real-life stories about identity, validation, and subtle control

Direct Inquiry: Practices like “Which ‘I’ is asking?” and “Can I find the one who is upset?”

The ‘Isness’ of Experience: A term used to describe the raw, pre-conceptual nature of life

The System’s Learning Extravaganza: Piers’ phrase for how insight unfolds naturally

Telepathy Tapes Podcast: Referenced as an example of unfiltered sensing without self-identification

Cold Showers as Practice: A visceral pointer to raw sensation vs conceptualised feeling

What if everything we’ve been taught about resilience and healing is upside down?

Piers chats with leadership coach and former lawyer Bill Giruzzi about the hidden architecture behind healing, resilience, and our capacity for wellbeing. They explore how society’s obsession with avoiding discomfort is not only unhelpful — it’s quietly costing us our aliveness, potential, and freedom.

Through Bill’s deeply personal story of debilitating anxiety and the profound insights that emerged on the other side, we unpack:

Why “getting rid of symptoms” isn’t the same as true wellbeing

How trying to manage or avoid uncomfortable feelings can keep us stuck

The real shift that dissolves suffering at its source (and why it’s not what you think)

Why the system is already built to heal — if we stop interfering

The modern misunderstanding of resilience in business and leadership

How our resistance to discomfort is often driven by a case of mistaken identity

This episode challenges the conventional view of performance, healing, and leadership — and invites a deeper, more liberating understanding of the mind that’s surprisingly simple, yet profoundly transformative.

The problem isn’t the feeling — it’s the resistance to it.

There’s nothing wrong with you. You’re not broken. You’re just believing something untrue.

True resilience comes not from building a thicker skin, but from seeing there’s nothing you need protection from.

Your wellbeing isn’t something you earn — it’s something you uncover.

Are leaders, entrepreneurs, or coaches feeling worn down by chronic coping

Sense there must be more to life and leadership than managing stress and ticking boxes

Want to understand how to access a deeper, more sustainable version of wellbeing and freedom

Are open to looking in a direction that challenges everything they thought they knew about the mind

The myth of "fixing" yourself

Flow state, self-identification, and the illusion of control

Cold showers, toddlers, and the surprising route to emotional freedom

📩 Email Bill

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Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

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