Who would you be if society never got its hands on you? In this expansive conversation, writer, actor, and host of the hilarious podcast Tell Me Something Messy Brandon Kyle Goodman joins Foster and Cesar to discuss ‘disruptive curiosity’, destigmatizing sex, and choosing to be child-free in a society that expects parenthood. Brandon opens up about their new journey on Lexapro, the healing power of talking openly about sex while working on Big Mouth, and the profound decision to not have children despite years of assuming they would. Brandon is both hilarious and wise, as they break down how to live authentically, build community, and break generational cycles by asking the questions no one else wants you to ask, like… aren’t all sports super gay?? 

In this episode they explore: 

• Why Brandon tried on heels to discover what was truly theirs vs. what was inherited
• The moment Brandon realized: "I don't want kids" (and how that broke a generational cycle)
• The difference between wanting to have kids and wanting to be a parent
• Why raising a mixed-race child as a gay couple required questions they couldn't answer

Brandon Kyle Goodman: 

• Listen to their podcast Tell Me Something Messy
• Subscribe to their Substack
• IG: @brandonkylegoodman

Also mentioned: 

• Pamela Samuelson’s Sex Ed class for tweens/teens & Take Back The Speculum: EMBODYWORK

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Created & Hosted by: Cesar Cardona and Foster Wilson

Executive Producer: Glenn Milley

Editor: Bessie Fong 

Special Guest: Brandon Kyle Goodman

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