On Throwback Thursdays Matt speaks to the politicians of the past to find out lessons for the present.

Estelle Morris was Education Secretary under Tony Blair but resigned in 2002 because she felt she wasn't up to the job. The former teacher describes swapping the classroom for the Commons, why it was bittersweet being elected for the first time during Labour's general election defeat in 1992, and the moment she knew she had to go.

Plus: Manveen Rana and Matthew Holehouse discuss Labour's u-turn on its £28 billion pledge and Rishi Sunak's defence of making a trans joke at PMQs.

Columnist Panel: (03:30)

Throwback Thursdays (25:05)

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