Religious freedom and public education: how do these issues come together? This week on The State of Belief, we hear leading voices make a compelling argument for ensuring the latter comes with a healthy dose of the former: Labor leader Randi Weingarten, activist Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum, and Democracy Forward's Skye Perryman.

Most of this episode was recorded live in Dallas, Texas, at a Religious Freedom in Public Schools Summit convened by Interfaith Alliance. In dialogue with host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, who moderated the conversation, Rabbi Sharon stresses how important separation of Church and State has been to the full inclusion of people who confess minority religions, including Judaism, in our country. A cornerstone of that is ensuring that public education remains a neutral ground where children from diverse backgrounds can learn together.

Randi highlights the immense pressure placed on teachers when faced with mandates for religious instruction. Teachers find themselves in a challenging position, often caught between differing parental beliefs and the need to create an inclusive environment for all students. Randi emphasizes the importance of supporting our educators, ensuring they have the resources and backing to foster critical thinking and respect for diverse beliefs without imposing any one ideology.

Then we hear Skye Perryman, President and CEO of Democracy Forward, offer eye-opening facts about the shifting global landscape of democracy. Marking International Democracy Day, Skye offers vital insights into how grassroots activism can counter the global drift toward autocracy - a trend affecting countries across the globe, including the United States, where she sees it playing out in public education policies, among other places. With compelling urgency, she underscores the importance of confronting extremism, misinformation, and regressive judicial decisions that threaten the very core of democratic principles, and the role of public schools in that struggle.

More about the speakers:

The longtime leader of the largest LGBTQ synagogue in the world, Congregation Beit Simchat Torah in New York City, Rabbi Sharon holds the title of Senior Rabbi Emerita and is now leading The Beacon, a nationwide grassroots movement of public witness.

Rabbi Sharon is married to Randi Weingarten, President of the American Federation of Teachers. AFT represents 1.8 million educators and health care professionals across the country. Randi has just released a brand-new book, titled Why Fascists Fear Teachers.

Skye Perryman is the President and CEO of Democracy Forward, “working tirelessly every day to safeguard our enduring, yet fragile, democracy.” That’s the description Time Magazine included in listing Skye as one of the 100 most influential people of 2025.

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