As Black History Month reaches its 2022 conclusion, Nathan and Cameron are joined by their friend, Brandon Cleaver, for a discussion of what the holiday has meant to him as a black man growing up in the Detroit area. The Thinking Out Loud crew are especially interested in how Brandon sees the Christian's hope informing the challenge our nation's ongoing racism. 

Brandon is the Program Director for Matthew 5:9 Fellowship, "a network of Christian leaders shepherding their communities to live out the Gospel and place their identity in Jesus Christ above partisanship and societal divisions." He is also a regular contributor to Jude 3 Project.