"...the piece I had there had a big pillow pile in the middle of the room and all of a sudden at a certain point I looked over and the pillow pile was filled with children like it had become like the ball pit of open studios..." Michael and Kai sit down with Rachel at Columbia University to discuss her show, Love 2016, that she curated at the Leroy Neiman Gallery in New York. Rachel is currently an MFA student at Columbia School of the Arts in her second year. We talk about the differences between creating work and creating a show from the work of others and how both processes can source the same creative impulses and influences. Rachel also reveals a long held secret from her time with the photographer Mary Ellen Mark. Links: Article & Images from Love 2016: http://www.vice.com/read/love-2016-explores Catalog from the show -click on preview: http://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/1039174?__r=78348 Website: http://msrachelstern.com Tumblr: http://rachelstern.tumblr.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelstern/ Visit www.thephotoshow.org Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud