What changes when we stop trying to fix neurodivergent children and start trying to understand them?
In this episode, we sit down with educator, researcher and unschooling parent Marnie Kammersell to explore neurodivergence through a radically different lens.
Together we unpack what labels can—and can't—offer families, why understanding often matters more than diagnosis, and how creating environments that meet children's needs can transform family life.
We also explore why so many neurodivergent families are drawn to homeschooling and unschooling, how schools can unintentionally encourage masking, and why curiosity, acceptance and flexibility often lead to far more meaningful support than trying to make children fit a predetermined mould.
Some of the questions and ideas we explore include:
- What does neurodivergence actually mean?
- When should parents explore an assessment or diagnosis?
- How can understanding neurodivergence support both children and adults?
- Why are so many neurodivergent families drawn to homeschooling and unschooling?
- How do we support neurodivergent children without trying to "fix" them?
- What role do curiosity, autonomy and belonging play in helping children thrive?
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Additional Resources
Neuroqueer Heresies by Nick Walker
We're All Neurodiverse by Sonny Jane Wise
Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors by Robyn Gobbel
A Different Way to Learn by Naomi Fisher Demystifying Disability by Emily Ladau
Disability Visibility by Alice Wong