The owner of a Pretoria based NGO where 23 mentally-ill patients died, has denied that their deaths were due hunger and cold as recorded in the ombudsman's report. She however failed to explain how they died. Ethel Ncube, who founded the Precious Angels faicility in Atteridgeville, has been testifying at the Life Esidimeni Arbitration held in Parktown, Johannesburg. The hearings are aimed at providing redress for the families of 141 psychiatric patients who died after being moved to various NGOs from Life Esidimeni. Wisani Makhubele reports..