Surfer Mike joins me to talk about DIY projects, rain gutters and the leaf free gutter systems.  I then described my motion sensor dilemma to Mike. And Mike offers up a very simple solution.

We then go on to plaster walls that have drywall on top of it, and how fun it is to work on walls like that.

Spray foam, how would Eric do it in his house. Attic insulation is exciting.

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