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It’s Tracy's birthday this week and, as she becomes another year older, it prompts a question from Dawn “Is it the journey or the destination that’s important?” As the ladies try to break down this age old question, one thing becomes clear - that the answer really isn’t that simple. Looking at the difference between personal and career journeys, how their perception of the destination has changed over the years, and how the journey might pass you by, the ladies leave no stone unturned when trying to solve this riddle, but what they do decide, is that the answer to this question may be neither the journey or the destination.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Dawn says that we live in a world where we are conditioned to think that ‘specific outcomes’ are what is important, but as she has discovered in life, this couldn’t be further from the truth.
• Tracy muses on the idea that even though the journey is important, it’s more important to recognise that you’re on a journey and to “smell the roses along the way.”
• Tracy talks about the idea of the ‘gap and the gain’. Should you measure your success on how far you fell short, the gap, or what you achieved that you never thought you would, the gain. 
• Tracy looks back on how her perception of what her destination is has changed over the years and how those destinations have turned from material items into more personal desires. 

BEST MOMENTS

“Where we’re going is important, but by the time we get there we want change.”

“We are all on multiple journeys with multiple destinations.”

“Remember to live life for the moment, because we don’t know how many moments we have left.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

Dawn and Tracy are here with a quick caffeine cast. After waking up at 4:10am this week and deciding to just get out of bed, something that has been happening more and more recently, Tracy wants to talk about why, as we get older, do we wake up earlier and earlier in the mornings. 

From the science that Dawn can’t remember, to Tracy just wanting to be lazy and the all important topic of afternoon naps, the ladies are covering everything you want to know about early rising, lying in and the morning after the night before. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Dawn was listening to a podcast about the science behind sleeping times, but she can’t remember all the details. Luckily Tracy is here to fill her in. 
• Tracy has been experimenting with her circadian rhythm when sleeping. She explains the method to Dawn and the benefits she is seeing. 
• Dawn finds that her most productive days are the ones when she gets up early, but she muses on why she is naturally waking up earlier now that she has nothing to do in the mornings.
• Dawn and Tracy discuss the idea of afternoon naps. Tracy isn’t a fan, but Dawn might be able to convince to start taking them more seriously. 

BEST MOMENTS

“Why is it that when the kids finally leave home your body decides it wants to wake up early?”

“I was listening to something, I can’t remember what it was and they were talking about something, but I can’t remember the name of it. But, apparently, it helps you sleep.”

“I do find that the days I get up early are my most productive days, but, parking that, it really pisses me off.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week Dawn and Tracy welcome back Chloe Bisson. Chloe had a meteoric rise in her career, becoming the director of an international company by the age of 26. But once she achieved her dream, she was left feeling empty and ill. Initially visiting the doctor to try and ease her stomach pain, she was shocked when she was diagnosed with severe clinical depression. After a period of denial, Chloe decided to tackle her illness head on, which led to some incredible revelations. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Chloe talks about her initial diagnosis of depression and how she found herself in disbelief and denial, because, as she discovered, depression is not what she thought it was.
• Choe talks about how her diagnosis made her look at her life and reevaluate some of her lifestyle choices, and how this may never have happened if she had not received her diagnosis.
• Tracy muses on the idea of labels when it comes to mental health and how they might not be the most appropriate way of helping people.
• Chloe shares the story of how she met a nurse that helped her finally understand her condition, which allowed her to make positive changes and face it head on. 

BEST MOMENTS

“Everybody has different ways of dealing with depression, but a top tip is ‘don’t suppress your emotions’.”

“Everyone tells you to talk about it, which is great, but I’m not sure everybody is prepared to hear it.”

“We should normalise depression instead of making it a taboo subject. Let’s let everyone know that it’s ok to not feel ok.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Chloe’s Linkedin

Chloe’s Facebook

Chloe’s Instagram

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE GUEST

Chloe is a #1 bestselling author, international speaker, multi-award winning entrepreneur and host of the Inspired By Show.

At 25, Chloe overcame severe clinical depression and started her first online business. Since then Chloe's scaled multiple six figure businesses and now specialises in helping entrepreneurs to explode their brands, write their bestselling books and elevate their status so they can inspire and influence others around them.

In this episode Chloe shares her expertise on How to Write a Book.

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week Dawn welcomed a new grandchild into the family which sparked the idea for this episode. Dawn and Tracy are back to discuss growing old gracefully, being glamorous grannies in business, dropping the responsibilities of parenthood as grandparents, and how we’re growing wiser, not older. Is growing old the same for everyone? And how can we make sure our sons don’t repeat the mistakes many do?

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• For Dawn, growing old gracefully is all about not trying to salvage a youthful look with lip fillers, it’s about allowing yourself to look your age but still look amazing. Accept your age and make the most of it rather than trying to hold on to something that’s gone. For Tracy it’s about maturing and getting wiser, rather than growing older.
• It’s a fascinating process stepping back and watching your child become a parent, you can see where your legacy in life really is. Your children and how they raise their children is so much down to you and who you were to them.
• When you’ve been a single parent you want to make sure you raise your sons to be good parents because you know what can happen if someone isn’t there and doesn’t step up.
• Having grandchildren hasn’t made Dawn feel old, it’s made her feel proud seeing who her children have become and realising the meaning of legacy.

BEST MOMENTS

‘I refuse to let go of that status, we can retain our hotness in older age’

‘Growing old is a bit of a dirty word’

‘Nobody wants their grandmother having an OnlyFans account’

EPISODE RESOURCES

Dawn's Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/dawn.willock.98

Link for MAGB www.magb.com

Tracy on Facebook

Follow Tracy on Instagram

Tracy's LinkedIn

Witchproperty.com

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up with all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down to earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heart felt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

Tracy has a new service that helps people overcome the struggles they have with technology. And with Dawn expanding her business and launching her books, she’s in desperate need of such a service. Having seen some of the work that Tracy has done this has got Dawn wondering how people in the world progress if they don’t have a ‘Tracy’. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Tracy outlines what her service actually does and the benefits it can bring to a new or existing business. 
• Dawn talks about the relief she experienced using Tracy’s service, not just from a time perspective but the quality of the work and how this is a valuable lesson in business.
• Dawn and Tracy discuss the idea that if you are tight with your money then you attract customers that don’t want to spend money. 
• Dawn realises that embracing the terror of technology always pays off in the long run when you realise how effective it can be. 

BEST MOMENTS

“Sometimes you can’t do it yourself. Outsource and then you can focus on the things you’re actually good at.”

“Sometimes we get too hung up on what it is going to cost me instead of what value it is  going to bring me.”

“Has tech made our lives better or just moved the point at which we are terrified?”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week the ladies have brought back popular guest Micheal Wildig. Dawn and Tracy have spent a lot of time talking about being mothers alongside running their own businesses so they thought it was time for a bit of balance. A new father and business owner, Michael is here to give his thoughts on his experience of being a first time dad, the impact it has had on his relationship and business and how parenting has changed in recent years, for the better. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Michael talks about the unexpected impacts on his business after fathering his first child. 
• Michael discusses how his wants and needs have changed since his child was born and how this has affected his personal and professional life. 
• Michael gives his insight on how having a child has changed his relationship with his partner and the different roles they have found themselves taking. 
• Dawn and Tracy share their experience of raising their children and their thoughts on the role of the mother versus the role of the father.

BEST MOMENTS

“My child has given me a massive ‘why’ when I think about running my business and the longevity and legacy I want to create.”

“It’s really sad that in the past the father was the worker and the mother was the carer. This meant his father missed out on a lot of firsts.”

“When raising a child with a partner, it’s not about what I’m doing and what you’re doing, it’s about how we can raise this child together.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Michael’s Instagram

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE GUEST

Michael's professional journey commenced in the motor trade, where he devoted seven years of his life, earning recognition for his professionalism and sales achievements. Yet, he came to a realisation that the industry didn't fully align with his expectations. In August 2019, he made a bold choice to leave his job and embark on a fresh journey in the world of property.

Since transitioning into the property sector, he has successfully completed over 30 property projects, both for himself and his clients. 

His unwavering passion has garnered attention and Michael's ultimate aspiration is to create quality, affordable housing and generate investment returns through HMO conversions, not just for himself but also for his clients & business partners. 

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

On a recent trip to a hardware store, Dawn’s husband was propositioned by an older lady, which got Dawn and Tracy thinking about what are the rules of engagement for older people when it comes to matters of the heart.  Are older people becoming more confident or is confidence something that comes with age? Why are more men dating older women and can relationships even work when there is a large age gap?

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Tracy recounts her recent experience of being approached by a younger man and how this made her feel.
• The ladies discuss what qualities they think men are attracted to in older women that younger women don’t have.
• Dawn talks about people she knew that had relationships with large age gaps and the advantages and disadvantages that came with them.
• Tracy talks about how she has noticed a trend in younger people in business to carry the confidence they have with dating into their professional lives and how this isn’t always a good thing.

BEST MOMENTS

“I think I’m a catch and if someone wants to chat me up I know it’s because of my personality.”

“Older women are more confident in the bedroom. They know what they like and how they like to do it.”

“Confidence is as attractive as it gets.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life.

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

Dawn and Tracy are both stressed, so much so that they’ve decided to drop this week's topic in favour of having a good old rant. Mobile phones, multiple messages via multiple channels, being your own boss, trying to do everything at 100 miles an hour and zoom emojis are just some of the things that are contributing to the ladies feeling ‘discombobulated.’ But is it worth getting chewed up about these things and are there simple solutions to coping with them? 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Dawn encourages young people to accept when they are feeling stressed and to talk about it, especially on social media where we have a tendency to paint the picture of a perfect life. 
• Tracy muses on the idea that the modern world, full of technology, might increase the stress placed on people's lives. 
• The ladies discuss how they are implementing new practices into their businesses to give themselves a better work life balance. 
• Dawn talks about the importance of taking life at the right pace and not feeling like you have to rush everything. 

BEST MOMENTS

“Be aware of your emotions and then you can manage them.”

“Sometimes the best thing to do is take a second to stop and reassess where you are.”

“Everybody has bad days, and that’s ok.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

It’s time for a quick one with Dawn and Tracy. This week they're bringing you an extract from Episode 79 which was first published on the 1st of March 2023. Following on from the ladies recent episode about ‘Boy jobs’ and ‘Girl jobs', today's episode highlights their original conversation with Carl from the Freemasons, on the role gender plays in Freemasonry. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Carl addresses some myths about the Freemasons such as whether it’s a satanic cult and if people get inducted with one trouser leg pulled up.
• Tracy talks about her all female property group, ‘Which Property’ and some of the negative feedback she received about being ‘sexist’. 
• Carl talks about why people join the Freemasons and how the joining up process has changed. 
• Carl clarifies the no women policy of the Freemasons and how it’s not actually what most people believe. 

BEST MOMENTS

“The satanic thing is a myth that originated from other groups that felt threatened by us.”

“There are so many aspects to the group that most people find that the reason they came for isn’t the reason they stay for.”

“The woman’s role in society has changed so much over the years, and we’re now on a equal footing and that’s great.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Original Episode

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week Dawn and Tracy are joined by bestselling author, international speaker, multi-award winning entrepreneur and host of the Inspired By Show, Chloe Bisson. Chloe overcame severe depression and started her coaching business. Frustrated at the lack of clients she was acquiring, she decided to write a book to tell her story. The book ended up becoming a bestseller and launched Chloe as an author. In this interview, Chloe shares all her wisdom for aspiring authors in the hope that you can follow in her footsteps. 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Chloe shares her journey to becoming an author and explains how her first book was written in the hopes of finding her more business clients but ended up taking her down an unexpected path.
• Chloe gives her top tips to aspiring writers and how they can overcome the pitfalls that most first time writers fall into.
• The ladies talk about the difference between writing for money and writing for art and how lessons learned in the former can be applied to the latter. 
• Chloe talks about finding the right publisher for your book, the things you should take into account and how you can know you’ve found the right publisher for you.

BEST MOMENTS

“You’re changing as you are writing the book, so be careful not to keep going back to the start and rewriting with a new viewpoint, if you do that, you’ll never finish.”

“Ask yourself what is point A and what is point B. The journey is where the reader is between the two points.”

“Find an honest friend that will read your book and give you feedback.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Chloe’s Linkedin

Chloe’s Facebook

Chloe’s Instagram

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE GUEST

Chloe is a #1 bestselling author, international speaker, multi-award winning entrepreneur and host of the Inspired By Show.

At 25, Chloe overcame severe clinical depression and started her first online business. Since then Chloe's scaled multiple six figure businesses and now specialises in helping entrepreneurs to explode their brands, write their bestselling books and elevate their status so they can inspire and influence others around them.

In this episode Chloe shares her expertise on How to Write a Book.

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets.  But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life. 

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick.  Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff.  Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.