'Take back control' has been the slogan of the year.

But what does it mean? Who's got control now? And how can we create a new economy where people can really take control of their lives?

Christine Berry, Principal Director for Policy and Government at the New Economics Foundation, joins Kirsty to discuss the Foundation's new agenda for change.

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Produced by James Shield. Programme editor for the Foundation is Huw Jordan. Music this week is by Comfort Fit.

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