NO SPOILERS in this conversation with New York Times bestselling author Rebecca Serle discussing IN FIVE YEARS.

*** Carinn & Kate introduce their conversation with author Rebecca Serle, whose book, In Five Years, held strong on the New York Times bestseller list! We get personal and introspective with Rebecca, who we dubbed a self-help guru plus fiction writer extraordinaire. It’s one of those interviews we are going to want (and need) to listen to over and over again. (:48)

*** In Five Years had us thinking about fate vs. free will and Rebecca explains why this question— how much of our lives are pre-determined and how much is within our control—is something she will never stop exploring in her fiction. (6:39)

*** Carinn & Kate get personal and discuss how fate had a hand in their relationship and Rebecca shares how she learned to “unclench the hands that hold the reins of her life” in order to give attention to where the energy is. Mind blown. (12:15)

*** In Five Years is a story with two complicated and very different female protagonists and Rebecca explains why prioritizing female friendships is so important to her books, but also in her life. (16:35)

*** Rebecca offers great advice to aspiring authors to be educated about the publishing world and yet also open to where the energy in your life is taking you in terms of what is drawing you in. Because once you’re educated and your house is in order, that is when you can listen to your intuition and live by it. She makes it sound so easy! (20:14)

*** As always, we talk astrology, and Rebecca was more than a willing participant...she had us finally running to schedule that astrological reading! (24:20)

*** Listen to hear what Nora Ephron means to Rebeca and which of her famous words made it into In Five Years. (29:25)

*** After this interview, you’ll want to pick up ALL of Rebecca’s books, particularly the Dinner List, which explores the many different facets of love and relationships, like she does in In Five Years. (31:50)

*** Speaking of love, we ask Rebecca to explain a line from the book--“Love doesn’t require a future”--and her answer is better than anything we could have imagined. (34:15)

*** In Five Years is a true love letter to NY. Rebecca shares what the city meant to her and her writing, even as she makes her new home in LA. (38:39)

*** Rebecca shared a list of some of her favorite Black women authors to amply Black voices (42:30):

Piecing Me Together by Renee Watson,

Heads of the Colored People by Nafissa Thompson-Spires,

Dear Martin by Nic Stone

The Hate You Give by Angie Thomas

On the Come Up by Angie Thomas

Given by Nandi Taylor

What We Lose Zinzi Clemmons

The Belles by Dhonielle Clayton

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