This episode includes conversation around mature and heavier subjects. Listener discretion is advised.

In this Part 2 episode, Brody and JB continue their conversation with Denise about how childhood abuse shaped her marriage and long-term healing. They explore how Christ carries both our guilt and the harm done to us, using the Old Testament scapegoat as a picture of shame removed.

The discussion covers trauma triggers, intimacy challenges, and the distinction between forgiveness, repentance, and reconciliation, along with why healing doesn’t depend on an apology. Tune into a conversation navigating abuse recovery, marriage after trauma, and ongoing sanctification.

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