On his LinkedIn profile, Michael Wasserman, MD, describes himself as a "Grampa, Father, Husband, Ironman, and Geriatrician." He is also someone with strong opinions about COVID and nursing homes.

In our recap of the Episode 81, in which Susan Ryan sits down with Dr. Wasserman, we take a deeper dive into the "Quadruple Aim" and the four areas it covers in light of the pandemic.

Dr. Wasserman calls himself a pragmatic idealist, a term that Marla examines the origin of, while Mary explores the difference between stakeholders and subject-matter experts. He offered that insight in light of the work he has done in California and at the federal level.

We also discuss a Health Affairs blog in which Wasserman talks about the money behind nursing homes and his thoughts on moving forward.

Read the Health Affairs blog here: https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210208.597573/full/

McKnight's Long-Term Care News article on Infection Preventionists: https://www.mcknights.com/news/long-term-care-remains-in-the-dark-about-infection-preventionist-requirements/

The Quadruple Aim for COVID-19 response: https://files.constantcontact.com/e3eea0f5101/9c1b03fa-99bd-49df-a087-963ae70e7544.pdf