Innovation is a big part of the conversation this week on "Let Me Say This About That." In Episode 69, Susan Ryan sat down with Alice Bonner, who has been a geriatric nurse practitioner caring for older adults and their families for over 30 years. She is currently adjunct faculty and director of strategic partnerships for the CAPABLE program at the Johns Hopkins University School of Nursing and senior advisor for aging at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI).

Marla and Mary discuss Project ECHO and the role it has played in healthcare. Bonner's work with IHI involved Project ECHO and she is a big fan of the model, as is The Green House Project. Mary shares the number of initiatives Green House has launched using Project ECHO and the impact it has had on those learning through that model.

Bonner also speaks about the barriers to innovation and Marla explores a report from Canada on effective innovation for long-term care. Both Mary and Marla discuss the benefits of the report and utilizing the perspective from another country.

They examine Bonner's greatest hope, fear, and her call to action. Plus, Marla adds an Irish proverb in the mix. Hear what it is and how it applies to our discussion today!

Find out more about Project Echo here: https://hsc.unm.edu/echo/

Read more about the Element of an Effective Innovation Strategy for LTC in Ontario here: https://neltoolkit.rnao.ca/sites/default/files/Elements%20of%20an%20Effective%20Innovation%20Strategy%20for%20Long%20Term%20Care%20in%20Ontario%202011.pdf