Ridge and Kai recap the first major swell event at Jaws and Waimea Bay. They share insights on the unpredictability of swells, the legacy of the Eddie Aikau event, and the techniques required to ride big waves. Ridge recounts his return to Jaws after a long absence, while Kai reflects on the chaos of big wave surfing at Waimea, highlighting the importance of safety and respect among surfers. They discuss the evolution of big wave surfing, the ongoing debate between towing and paddling, the impact of competition on surfers' careers, the science behind surf conditions, and the future of surfing events in Hawaii. The conversation highlights the respect and etiquette required in the lineup, the challenges faced by up-and-coming surfers, and the need for more opportunities in competitive surfing.