Shane and Steve have a stimulating chat about his extraordinary life, the seed industry, soil nutrition and health and finding a new community on the bottom of the world. Steve's book "Gardening When it Counts" was one of the most influential books in Shane's life, not because it changed his abstract thoughts. Instead it changed how he acted in the world. This is probably the longest episode recorded but worth every minute.

Check out Steve's extensive list of books- https://www.amazon.com/stores/Steve-Solomon/author/B001JRWZS8?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=97788a39-aee1-424c-915d-4febcd30231e

Many more free articles and books here - https://soilandhealth.org/steve-solomons-home-page/#

Get in touch with Steve by listening carefully through to the end of the episode.

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks with Capello about his experiences establishing diverse hazelnut groves in the Ozarks, integration of sheep grazing, and deeper thoughts about the potential role of animistic/shamanistic world views in response to the unfolding end of industrialisation.

Recommended reading

Joseph Henrich - "The WEIRDest People in the World" (re: cultural adaptation and knowledge transmission)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World

Dave Jacke & Eric Toensmeier - "Edible Forest Gardens" (two volumes) (re: food forest layering and production)- https://au.permacultureprinciples.com/product/edible-forest-gardens-volume-1/

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks with Julian Gough, philosopher turned cosmologist, about his stunning theory extending Smolin's Cosmic Natural Selection. If organisms and ecosystems can evolve, then perhaps entire universes are part of a chain of variation and selection as well. Recent observations from the James Webb space telescope have supported many of Julian's boldest predictions and the scientific establishment is beginning to pay attention.

Read more about Julian's work at his substack: https://theeggandtherock.com

A great starting point on Blowtorch Theory: https://www.irishtimes.com/science/space/2025/04/24/beyond-the-big-bang-irishmans-universal-evolution-theory-challenges-accepted-cosmology/

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane and long time fan of the show Cimbri talk about reclaiming our ancestral human potential, the past and future of human evolution (both biological and cultural) and the challenges of being a younger person (and parent) working toward escaping industrial civilisation.

You can check out Cimbri's activity on Reddit- https://www.reddit.com/user/Cimbri/

Special Price Reduction on Taming the Apocalypse ebook- Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane chats with Samuel Lewis, a self described 21st century hoe farmer from Brittany, France, who has been growing his staple calorie crops with zero inputs along with many other rural ventures, plus publishing books and producing art along the way.

You can get your own copy of his detailed book and learn more about his work at his website:

https://hoe-farming.com

Here are two short videos about his farm on Youtube:

https://youtu.be/iUmKfqm_znA?si=hVDhEQDkVusTD3Uv

https://youtu.be/tR0Lb5DaMrY?si=TjrgRY6gtGxsdouN

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks with Richard Bartlett about his remarkable passion for decentralised social organisations and the cultures and norms which make them thrive.

You can read the book Shane mentions in the episode at: https://betterworktogether.co

Richard's personal website links to all his other projects and contacts: https://richdecibels.com

And Casa Tilo in Barcelona presents an opportunity to immerse yourself in the growing community of apprentice vibe mechanics: https://eltilo.casa

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks to temperate tree crop breeder Alex Tanke about his work with persimmons and pecans/hickories, plus a whole bunch of other topics related to tree crops and the development of diverse and resilient food systems.

Read more about Alex's work at his website: https://dispersionfarms.com

Check out his Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@alextanke8963

And check out the activity on the Nut Processors Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1351572005177147/

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks to Justin Senryu-Williams about his extraordinary work to breed resilient, low input tomatoes for the soggy British climate through extensive outcrossing to wild tomato relatives.

You can learn more about his work through his posts on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/JustinSenryu

https://www.facebook.com/groups/182244131939228

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

Shane talks with Thomas Stoughton about his extensive field work studying the spring beauties (Claytonia species) a diverse group of plants with enormous untapped domestication potential and a host of weird genetic tricks. They also dive into fungi- foraging, farming and domestication, and a host of other side track topics.

You can read more about Thomas' work and see his beautiful botanical photos at: https://claytonia.org

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/

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Shane talks to Gus Le Breton about his lifetime of exploring and promoting the vast array of useful edible and medicinal plants that grow Southern Africa and Madagascar. You're in for a rare ethnobotanical treat!

You can learn more about Gus' work at the links below.

Youtube channel with plant profiles and field trips: https://www.youtube.com/@AfricanPlantHunter

Gus' main website- https://africanplanthunter.com

The African Baobab Alliance- https://africanbaobaballiance.org

FairWild ethically connecting local plant producers to markets- https://www.fairwild.org

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse ebook - https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/