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We recorded this in bed over a week ago while we were in Miami — mostly for our ourselves…to talk through some ideas and concepts. We weren’t going to release it. But I gave it a listen and I thought we had a great conversation — genuine pillow talk before going to bed.

Some of the things we discuss: the start of our crusade against Red Scare, Anna K’s ties and similarity to Mike Cernovich, the beta-lib-husband-turned-pick-up-artist-turned-MAGA-boy-turned-trad-dad-influencer. We also talk about the pick up artist self help scene, Roosh…and how a lot of that world went trad and renounced their early whoring. And we discuss how the Red Scare women are the counterpart to the Cernovich and Tate influencer types — but they poison the minds of young women, rather than young men.

One thing that these influencers push, especially the trad types, is that having a family means you naturally adopt The Zone of Interest politics — that this is just how the world works. But this is a lie. There is nothing natural about it. You can be a father or mother without adopting a nihilistic view where nothing and nobody matters outside your immediate family. I know this personally...

Enjoy the ep. Sweet dreams.

—Yasha

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