In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Nilofer Merchant, co-founder of The Intangible Labs, and author of the new book Our Best Work: Break Free from the 24 Invisible Norms that Limit Us. 

00:28: Context for the Book 

3:56: The Birdcage and Why We’re Stuck 

5:39: The Steve Jobs Moment: Power Voice and Being Unheard 

8:58: The Trillion-Dollar Problem and Untapped Human Potential 

11:16: The 24 Practices for Better Work 

13:38: Fix the Room, Not Her: Rethinking Voice and Inclusion 

17:45: Franklin Leonard and Power, Networks, and Reorienting Toward Purpose 

25:08: Nilofer's Story: Arranged Marriage, Apple, and the Path Not Planned 

31:09: Fighting for the Emperor's Pleasure: Power and Gender in the MBA Classroom 

36:08: The Origin of Intangible Labs 

40:01: Who Made Adam Smith’s Dinner? And Rethinking How We Measure Value 

43:57: Small Teams, Ecosystems, and the Future of Organizations 

46:41: The Big Picture Vision of Reimagining Work 

51:18: Intangible Labs, Early Adopters, and Spreading Goodness 

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