In this insightful episode of Related with Katelyn and Kelsey, the show explores the profound intersections of mental health, self-discovery, and friendships through the Enneagram framework. Joined by Christina, an author and mental health advocate, the conversation delves into her journey with Enneagram type 6, the importance of understanding core fears, and advocating for mental health within faith communities. The episode highlights the challenges of obtaining accurate diagnoses and stresses the crucial role of supportive friendships, especially during the pandemic. It provides practical advice for fostering meaningful connections across different Enneagram types, from the responsibilities felt by Type Ones to the emotional validation needed by Type Fours, and beyond. Listeners will gain valuable insights into enhancing personal growth and emotional well-being through understanding and supporting diverse Enneagram types in friendships.

(01:19) Christina's Enneagram Journey

(07:39) Mental Health Advocacy and Personal Journey

(14:09) Enneagram and Friendship

(29:43) Understanding the Needs of Type Fours

(32:26) Supporting Self-Pampering for Type Fives

(36:00) Empowering Confidence in Type Sixes

(40:07) Seeing Beyond Avoidance in Type Sevens

(44:58) Staying Curious About Anger in Type Eights

(48:49) Giving Space for Type Nines to Express Themselves

(53:58) Exploring the Six Pillars of Friendship

In this episode, the Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the common themes of navigating personal responsibility and boundaries within various kinds of relationships, from friendships and parental dynamics to romantic

(00:00) Drink Preferences

(00:32) Personal Habits and Pet Peeves

(01:42) Main Topic: Relationships and Boundaries

(02:47) Conflict Resolution Strategies

(03:10) People Pleasing and Internalizing Issues

(05:44) Blaming and Projecting in Relationships

(06:35) Healthy Boundaries and Communication

(08:32) Parental Influence on Adult Behavior

(14:38) Friendship Dynamics and Insecurities

(22:59) Romantic Relationships and Accountability

(29:33) Practical Takeaways and Self-Reflection

(32:35) Pop Culture Segment: Real Housewives

(36:24) Final Thoughts

In this episode, Katelyn and Kelsey welcome Ruthie Kim, an

(00:00) Introduction and Ruthie Kim’s Background

(02:05) Exploring the Theme of Courage

(06:23) Navigating Fear and Anxiety

(16:29) Empowering Women Through Courage

(19:46) Embracing Passion and Leadership

(20:35) Debunking Myths About Female Enneagram Eights

(21:25) Challenges and Opportunities in Church Leadership

(22:17) Strengths and Vulnerabilities of Enneagram Eights

(27:32) Learning to Be Invitational

(30:41) Misconceptions and Realities of Female Leaders

(33:13) Encouragement for Female Enneagram Eights

(35:29) How to Connect with Ruthie

Lauren Paz's Journey: Navigating Pregnancy Loss and Emotional Healing

In this episode, the hosts discuss their favorite Olympic

(00:00) Introduction and Current Obsessions

(00:22) Olympics Highlights and Equestrian Sports

(03:06) Gymnastics and Beach Volleyball Favorites

(05:05) Kelsey's Journey with Anxiety

(05:55) Childhood Anxiety and Therapy

(07:31) High School, College, and the Enneagram

(10:00) Therapy and Understanding Anxiety

(16:29) Tools and Strategies for Managing Anxiety

(20:45) The Importance of Tools and Medication

(22:30) Supporting Someone with Anxiety

(25:59) Physical Symptoms of Anxiety

(31:23) Mental Health in Athletes

(32:06) Simone Biles' Journey

(36:42) Caleb Dressel's Experience

(39:45) Integrating Mental, Physical, and Spiritual Health

(40:40) Conclusion and Resources

In this episode, Justin McRoberts shares insights into his latest book, 'Sacred Strides', discussing the convergence of work and rest in the post-COVID era. He provides a deep dive into his creative process, influenced by living with ADHD, and highlights the importance of integrating work and self-care. Justin also delves into the Enneagram, specifically examining the nuances of being a Type 4, and offers advice on navigating envy and maintaining creativity. His candid reflections reveal the complexities of balancing professional aspirations and personal growth, emphasizing the ongoing practice of self-awareness and community support.

You can find Justin at justinmcroberts.com

(00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome

(00:45) ADHD and Writing Process

(02:27) Post-COVID Reflections on Work and Rest

(04:06) Balancing Hustle and Self-Care

(04:47) Generational Perspectives on Work and Rest

(05:31) The Desire for Wholeness

(10:07) Consequences of Imbalance

(12:45) Intentional Rest Practices

(18:34) The Meaning of Work

(21:18) Enneagram Type Discussion

(24:07) The Creative Journey of a Four

(24:42) Discovering the Enneagram

(26:42) A Defining High School Moment

(30:09) Understanding Envy

(36:07) Advice for Creatives

(41:45) Final Thoughts and Where to Find Justin

In part II, Kelsey delves into Katelyn's Enneagram type and how it relates to her behavior and motivations. They explore the connection between her type 5 and type 8, as well as the importance of understanding one's core motivations. They also discuss the benefits of knowing one's Enneagram type, such as being able to address underlying needs and improve relationships. The conversation highlights the power of the Enneagram in providing a roadmap for personal growth and self-awareness.

(00:00) Exploring Type 5 and Type 8

(03:04) Understanding Motivations and Core Behaviors

(09:01) The Benefits of Knowing Your Enneagram Type

(13:01) Navigating Mistyping and Finding Your True Type

(18:00) Journey of Self-Discovery

In this episode, the host shares insights on the complexities of discovering one's Enneagram type, emphasizing that it is a journey that can take years. The discussion centers on Katelyn's personal experience with identifying her type, oscillating between Type 5 and Type 1 traits. Kelsey and Katelyn explore various aspects such as motivations, fears, stress responses, and health states to pinpoint her true type. The episode underscores the importance of understanding core motivations and the nuanced differences between closely related Enneagram types. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of how Enneagram typing can be a layered and sometimes confusing process, requiring thorough self-examination and professional guidance.

The conversation explores the concept of loyalty and its potential for toxicity in various relationships, such as friendships, marriages, and work environments. It highlights the importance of trust, support, and commitment in healthy loyalty, while also acknowledging the need to recognize and address red flags in relationships. The discussion delves into the complexities of loyalty in different contexts, including the challenges of blind loyalty and the potential for abuse. It emphasizes the importance of seeking help and guidance to navigate the nuances of loyalty in personal and professional relationships. Blind loyalty can be detrimental in various aspects of life, such as work, organized religion, and family. It often leads to burnout and can perpetuate toxic behaviors. Loyalty should work both ways and be based on love and trust. It's important to question the purpose and impact of our loyalty and seek support if needed.

(00:00) Salsa

(03:06) Exploring Loyalty and Its Potential for Toxicity

(06:08) Healthy Loyalty in Friendships

(08:17) Navigating Loyalty in Marriages

(10:19) Recognizing Unhealthy Loyalty in Relationships

(13:04) When Loyalty Becomes Toxic: Work Environments

(20:06) Personal Experiences with Loyalty in Work Settings

(23:16) The Dangers of Blind Loyalty

(25:26) The Impact of Loyalty in Helping Professions

(27:50) The Impact of Loyalty in Workplaces and Organizations

(29:24) The Complexity of Family Loyalty

(34:05) Loyalty Expression by Enneagram Type

(38:58) Help for People Pleasers

(41:15) Blind Loyalty in New Jersey Housewives

(43:53) Seeking Support and Setting Boundaries

In this conversation, Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the topic of friendship and explore the concept of red flags and green flags. They highlight the importance of mutual effort, being able to be oneself, and having similar values in a healthy friendship. They also discuss the significance of being a good listener, respecting boundaries, and avoiding gossip. The conversation concludes with a brief overview on specific red flags for each Enneagram type. In pop culture, they discuss the dynamics of friendships on reality TV shows The Valley and Real Housewives of New Jersey.