When you get the idea that the life of Jesus is a product you're supposed to achieve rather than a process to embrace with him, you will lose sight of him and get lost in the futility of your own efforts. Wayne's daughter, Julie, joins him for this podcast as they continue to explore Paul David Tripps book on Parenting. What they talk about today goes far beyond parenting and underlines the mistake that so many passionate Christians make, hoping that transformation is an event, not an ongoing conversation with God  through the mundane situations and relationships in our lives. If we can relax into that process, our journey will become much more fruitful.

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Parenting Resources:  Parenting by Paul David Tripp and Loving Our Kids on Purpose by Danny Silk

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