David Gornoski analyzes the latest developments in the Tucker Carlson NSA surveillance story and cautions us from falling into tribalism and spreading the contagion of fear. David also explains to us what the real meaning of religion is and why we are ruled today by religious forces despite the veneer of secularism. Is the Woke religion really concerned about flesh and blood victims? Who do we imitate so that we do not fall into groupthink? Listen to the full episode to find out and more.

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