Episode No. 625A remembers artist Robert Irwin.

Nota bene: Episode No. 625B, which will post here on the evening of Friday, October 27, will feature artists Tammy Nguyen and Jammie Holmes.

Irwin, a painter and anti-sculptor who substantially invented the Light and Space movement (and responses to it as a teacher), died on October 25, 2023. He was 95. This program remembers Irwin with two curators who worked with him, and by re-playing Irwin's two appearances on The Modern Art Notes Podcast.

Michael Auping retired from the chief curatorship of The Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth in 2017 after curatorial stints at the University Art Museum, University of California, Berkeley, the Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, Fla., and the Albright-Knox Art Gallery, Buffalo, NY. He organized "Robert Irwin / Matrix 15" for what is now the Berkeley Art Museum & Pacific Film Archive in 1978.

Evelyn Hankins is head curator at the Smithsonian's Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden, Washington DC. She organized "Robert Irwin: All the Rules Will Change," a survey of Irwin's transition from painting to installation, in 2016.

The two Irwin interview segments on the program are from 2012's Episode No. 26; and 2016's Episode No. 231.