Lise Hand joins Matt to remember their great friend who was murdered 30 years ago in June 1996. They recall their friendships with Veronica, how they got to know her, and her early years in journalism. They swap stories about what a great character she was, but also how she was a trailblazing journalist. They turn to the circumstances of the horror of her death and assess the reaction of the politicians of the time and what they did in response to what was a national outrage. They address her legacy and wonder what Veronica would be doing now if she were still with us.

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