The eighth NewRetirement podcast. This time, Steve Chen is joined by guest Chris Mamula — a FIRE person and writer for both Can I Retire Yet? and Eat the Financial Elephant — and discusses his journey as a "normal" guy becoming financially independent at 41 years old. They address mistakes and pitfalls, the difference between a traditional "lean FIRE" and an increasingly popular "fat FIRE", balancing a love for outdoors and early retirement, and more.

Recording, editing done by Davorin Robison.

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