On this week's episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the Travel Editor of the New York Times Amy Virshup returns to talk about this year's "52 Places" list. With Covid still making travel unpredictable, this year's list brings us standout stories of communities that are innovating solutions to overtourism, climate change, and other environmental threats.

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

NYT's "52 Places for a Changed World"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/travel/52-places-travel-2022.html

Amy Virshup's article describing this year's list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/travel/a-different-kind-of-52.html

Rock cairns in the National Parks

https://www.nps.gov/articles/rockcairns.htm