Rainbow came into carbon dioxide removal from the outside, kept financing avoidances the whole time, and has watched the market arrive at the position it started from. The company I cofounded, Nori, was merciless about avoidance for its entire existence, so some of that is on me.Wendell Berry died on 31 August, at 92. He has more books referenced on this show than any other author. Early in Nori's life I wrote to him twice inviting him onto this very podcast by explaining that we were making tonnes of soil organic carbon fungible with one another, which may be the worst reading of an audience in my career. He said no both times, kindly. I still have the letters.Listen in to hear more about what it is like to meet someone from Verra and have the first sentence out of your mouth be "I used to think I was better than you", why the hardest parts of carbon market integrity turn out to be structural rather than a failure of anyone's willpower, what the Scouring of the Shire has to do with a methodology list, why I would keep rainforest over carbon removal if someone made me choose, and those ever-present wizards and prophets.This Episode's Sponsor<a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">EcoEngineers</a>: a full-service advisory and consulting firm focused on carbon dioxide removal, decarbonization, and carbon markets.<a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/how-to-hire-fire-and-get-max-value" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to the RCC episode I made with David LaGreca from EcoEngineers about how to choose, hire, and fire carbon market contractors.</a><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/which-story-is-carbon-dioxide-removal-97e" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Listen to the RCC episode I made with Rudy Krehbiel, also of EcoEngineers, on which story carbon dioxide removal is actually in and what it costs to be inside the wrong one.</a><a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us/ecoforums/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2026 EcoForums Training Series: Navigating Global Carbon and Fuel Regulations, Market Mechanisms, and Life-Cycle Analysis Fundamentals</a>Rainbow is a client of mine and I say so in the episode. They are not sponsoring this episode. I was just inspired by the work itself.Resources<ul><li>Subscribe to the <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Reversing Climate Change Substack⁠</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Become a paid subscriber⁠</a> for bonus content and ad-free episodes</li><li><a href="https://rainbowstandard.io/news/removals-avoidances-and-the-rise-of-the-portfolio-mentality" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Removals, avoidances, and the rise of the portfolio mentality</a>, the essay this episode is built on, at Rainbow</li><li><a href="https://rainbowstandard.io" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rainbow</a>, the standard and registry</li><li><a href="https://cdrxiv.org/preprint/521" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sustained Neutralization of the Warming Response to Emissions through a Portfolio of GHG Mitigation Strategies</a>, Ella Hughes, Zeke Hausfather, Randall Spock and Christopher Van Arsdale, CDRXIV, May 2026. This is the Google paper on stacking and bridging</li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/the-prodigal-son-of-carbon-markets" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Prodigal Son of Carbon Markets</a>, with Martin Freimüller of <a href="https://ke.linkedin.com/company/octavia-carbon" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia Carbon</a>, on his change of heart about the voluntary carbon market</li><li><a href="https://climagination.substack.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Grillo</a> writes Climagination, and was on the show for <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/s3e50-the-culture-of-carbon-removalw-d6e" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Culture of Carbon Removal</a></li><li><a href="https://marginalcarbon.substack.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Höglund</a> writes Marginal Carbon</li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/charles-c-mann-on-the-reversing-climate" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rereading The Wizard and the Prophet six years deeper into climate work</a>, with Charles C. Mann, where the wizards and prophets framing comes from</li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/408-the-impossible-taxonomy-of-carbon-20d" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The impossible taxonomy of carbon dioxide removal</a>, the previous episode about categories that mislead</li><li><a href="https://kentuckylantern.com/2026/08/31/kentucky-writer-farmer-and-advocate-wendell-berry-dies-at-92/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Wendell Berry, 1934 to 2026</a>, Kentucky Lantern</li>Six Wendell Berry books, and most of what this show has argued about for a decade, <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/soil-farms-and-the-regenerative-argument" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">are on my Bookshop shelf.</a>Book links go to Bookshop.org. They pay me a commission at no extra cost to you, and the rest goes to independent bookshops.</ul> Cover image: Pieter Bruegel the Elder, The Harvesters, 1565, <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/435809" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Metropolitan Museum of Art</a>, Open Access.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/removals-avoidances-and-what-wendell-76c" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/removals-avoidances-and-what-wendell-76c</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

Rainbow came into carbon dioxide removal from the outside, kept financing avoidances the whole time, and has watched the market arrive at the position it started from. The company I cofounded, Nori, was merciless about avoidance for its entire existence, so some of that is on me. Wendell Berry died on 31 August, at 92. He has more books referenced on this show than any other author. Early in Nori's life I wrote to him twice inviting him onto this very podcast by explaining that we were making tonnes of soil organic carbon fungible with one another, which may be the worst reading of an audience in my career. He said no both times, kindly. I still have the letters. Listen in to hear more about what it is like to meet someone from Verra and have the first sentence out of your mouth be "I used to think I was better than you", why the hardest parts of carbon market integrity turn out to be structural rather than a failure of anyone's willpower, what the Scouring of the Shire has to do with a methodology list, why I would keep rainforest over carbon removal if someone made me choose, and those ever-present wizards and prophets. This Episode's Sponsor EcoEngineers: a full-service advisory and consulting firm focused on carbon dioxide removal, decarbonization, and carbon markets. Listen to the RCC episode I made with David LaGreca from EcoEngineers about how to choose, hire, and fire carbon market contractors. Listen to the RCC episode I made with Rudy Krehbiel, also of EcoEngineers, on which story carbon dioxide removal is actually in and what it costs to be inside the wrong one. 2026 EcoForums Training Series: Navigating Global Carbon and Fuel Regulations, Market Mechanisms, and Life-Cycle Analysis Fundamentals Rainbow is a client of mine and I say so in the episode. They are not sponsoring this episode. I was just inspired by the work itself. ResourcesSubscribe to the ⁠Reversing Climate Change Substack⁠⁠Become a paid subscriber⁠ for bonus content and ad-free episodesRemovals, avoidances, and the rise of the portfolio mentality, the essay this episode is built on, at RainbowRainbow, the standard and registrySustained Neutralization of the Warming Response to Emissions through a Portfolio of GHG Mitigation Strategies, Ella Hughes, Zeke Hausfather, Randall Spock and Christopher Van Arsdale, CDRXIV, May 2026. This is the Google paper on stacking and bridgingThe Prodigal Son of Carbon Markets, with Martin Freimüller of Octavia Carbon, on his change of heart about the voluntary carbon marketJason Grillo writes Climagination, and was on the show for The Culture of Carbon RemovalRobert Höglund writes Marginal CarbonRereading The Wizard and the Prophet six years deeper into climate work, with Charles C. Mann, where the wizards and prophets framing comes fromThe impossible taxonomy of carbon dioxide removal, the previous episode about categories that misleadWendell Berry, 1934 to 2026, Kentucky LanternSix Wendell Berry books, and most of what this show has argued about for a decade, are on my Bookshop shelf. Book links go to Bookshop.org. They pay me a commission at no extra cost to you, and the rest goes to independent bookshops. Cover image: Pieter Bruegel the Elder, The Harvesters, 1565, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Open Access. Resources This episode's page on the web: https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/removals-avoidances-and-what-wendell-76c Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe Books from the show, at Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com

Rainbow came into carbon dioxide removal from the outside, kept financing avoidances the whole time, and has watched the market arrive at the position it started from. The company I cofounded, Nori, was merciless about avoidance for its entire existence, so some of that is on me.Wendell Berry died on 31 August, at 92. He has more books referenced on this show than any other author. Early in Nori's life I wrote to him twice inviting him onto this very podcast by explaining that we were making tonnes of soil organic carbon fungible with one another, which may be the worst reading of an audience in my career. He said no both times, kindly. I still have the letters.Listen in to hear more about what it is like to meet someone from Verra and have the first sentence out of your mouth be "I used to think I was better than you", why the hardest parts of carbon market integrity turn out to be structural rather than a failure of anyone's willpower, what the Scouring of the Shire has to do with a methodology list, why I would keep rainforest over carbon removal if someone made me choose, and those ever-present wizards and prophets.This Episode's Sponsor<a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer">EcoEngineers</a>: a full-service advisory and consulting firm focused on carbon dioxide removal, decarbonization, and carbon markets.<a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/how-to-hire-fire-and-get-max-value" rel="noopener noreferrer">Listen to the RCC episode I made with David LaGreca from EcoEngineers about how to choose, hire, and fire carbon market contractors.</a><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/which-story-is-carbon-dioxide-removal-97e" rel="noopener noreferrer">Listen to the RCC episode I made with Rudy Krehbiel, also of EcoEngineers, on which story carbon dioxide removal is actually in and what it costs to be inside the wrong one.</a><a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us/ecoforums/" rel="noopener noreferrer">2026 EcoForums Training Series: Navigating Global Carbon and Fuel Regulations, Market Mechanisms, and Life-Cycle Analysis Fundamentals</a>Rainbow is a client of mine and I say so in the episode. They are not sponsoring this episode. I was just inspired by the work itself.Resources<ul><li>Subscribe to the <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠Reversing Climate Change Substack⁠</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠Become a paid subscriber⁠</a> for bonus content and ad-free episodes</li><li><a href="https://rainbowstandard.io/news/removals-avoidances-and-the-rise-of-the-portfolio-mentality" rel="noopener noreferrer">Removals, avoidances, and the rise of the portfolio mentality</a>, the essay this episode is built on, at Rainbow</li><li><a href="https://rainbowstandard.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rainbow</a>, the standard and registry</li><li><a href="https://cdrxiv.org/preprint/521" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sustained Neutralization of the Warming Response to Emissions through a Portfolio of GHG Mitigation Strategies</a>, Ella Hughes, Zeke Hausfather, Randall Spock and Christopher Van Arsdale, CDRXIV, May 2026. This is the Google paper on stacking and bridging</li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/the-prodigal-son-of-carbon-markets" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Prodigal Son of Carbon Markets</a>, with Martin Freimüller of <a href="https://ke.linkedin.com/company/octavia-carbon" rel="noopener noreferrer">Octavia Carbon</a>, on his change of heart about the voluntary carbon market</li><li><a href="https://climagination.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jason Grillo</a> writes Climagination, and was on the show for <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/s3e50-the-culture-of-carbon-removalw-d6e" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Culture of Carbon Removal</a></li><li><a href="https://marginalcarbon.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Robert Höglund</a> writes Marginal Carbon</li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/charles-c-mann-on-the-reversing-climate" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rereading The Wizard and the Prophet six years deeper into climate work</a>, with Charles C. Mann, where the wizards and prophets framing comes from</li><li><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/408-the-impossible-taxonomy-of-carbon-20d" rel="noopener noreferrer">The impossible taxonomy of carbon dioxide removal</a>, the previous episode about categories that mislead</li><li><a href="https://kentuckylantern.com/2026/08/31/kentucky-writer-farmer-and-advocate-wendell-berry-dies-at-92/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wendell Berry, 1934 to 2026</a>, Kentucky Lantern</li>Six Wendell Berry books, and most of what this show has argued about for a decade, <a href="https://bookshop.org/lists/soil-farms-and-the-regenerative-argument" rel="noopener noreferrer">are on my Bookshop shelf.</a>Book links go to Bookshop.org. They pay me a commission at no extra cost to you, and the rest goes to independent bookshops.</ul> Cover image: Pieter Bruegel the Elder, The Harvesters, 1565, <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/435809" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Metropolitan Museum of Art</a>, Open Access.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/removals-avoidances-and-what-wendell-76c" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/removals-avoidances-and-what-wendell-76c</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

Removals, avoidances, and what Wendell Berry thought of making tonnes fungible

When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden?In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in the Great African Sea Forest and the inspiration behind his new book, Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World.Host and Nori Co-Founder Ross Kenyon asks Craig some unanswered questions he has about My Octopus Teacher, the experience of fame from winning the 2021 Best Documentary Feature Oscar, whether evolution has prepared us for fame, and Craig's adjustment back to civilian life.Craig discusses the profound lessons learned from marine life, emphasizing the importance of a deep connection with nature and the critical role biodiversity plays in the survival of our planet.Ross and Craig discuss their various stories of interspecies communication and what it means to build a thread to a species and learn their language. They explore themes of kinship with nature, the significance of tracking as an ancient fundamental language, and the transformative power of cold water immersion. Plunge for the planet!The discussion also touches on Craig's marine conservation efforts through the Sea Change Project and introduces a unique multimedia aspect of his book that aims to enhance readers' connection to nature.Connect with Nori<a href="https://www.instagram.com/carbonremovalmemes/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram</a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/carbon-removal-memes" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Carbon Removal Memes on LinkedIn</a>Resources<a href="https://seachangeproject.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Sea Change Project</a><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81045007" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">My Octopus Teacher</a><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/amphibious-soul-craig-foster?variant=41096263598114" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">James C. Scott's anthropology</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Wim Hof</a>ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/324-my-octopus-teacher-how-rewilding-238">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/324-my-octopus-teacher-how-rewilding-238</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden? In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in the Great African Sea Forest and the inspiration behind his new book, Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World. Host and Nori Co-Founder Ross Kenyon asks Craig some unanswered questions he has about My Octopus Teacher, the experience of fame from winning the 2021 Best Documentary Feature Oscar, whether evolution has prepared us for fame, and Craig's adjustment back to civilian life. Craig discusses the profound lessons learned from marine life, emphasizing the importance of a deep connection with nature and the critical role biodiversity plays in the survival of our planet. Ross and Craig discuss their various stories of interspecies communication and what it means to build a thread to a species and learn their language. They explore themes of kinship with nature, the significance of tracking as an ancient fundamental language, and the transformative power of cold water immersion. Plunge for the planet! The discussion also touches on Craig's marine conservation efforts through the Sea Change Project and introduces a unique multimedia aspect of his book that aims to enhance readers' connection to nature. Connect with Nori ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Carbon Removal Memes on LinkedIn Resources Sea Change Project My Octopus Teacher Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World James C. Scott's anthropology Wim Hof Resources This episode's page on the web: https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/324-my-octopus-teacher-how-rewilding-238 Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe Books from the show, at Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com

When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden?In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in the Great African Sea Forest and the inspiration behind his new book, Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World.Host and Nori Co-Founder Ross Kenyon asks Craig some unanswered questions he has about My Octopus Teacher, the experience of fame from winning the 2021 Best Documentary Feature Oscar, whether evolution has prepared us for fame, and Craig's adjustment back to civilian life.Craig discusses the profound lessons learned from marine life, emphasizing the importance of a deep connection with nature and the critical role biodiversity plays in the survival of our planet.Ross and Craig discuss their various stories of interspecies communication and what it means to build a thread to a species and learn their language. They explore themes of kinship with nature, the significance of tracking as an ancient fundamental language, and the transformative power of cold water immersion. Plunge for the planet!The discussion also touches on Craig's marine conservation efforts through the Sea Change Project and introduces a unique multimedia aspect of his book that aims to enhance readers' connection to nature.Connect with Nori<a href="https://www.instagram.com/carbonremovalmemes/" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram</a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/carbon-removal-memes" rel="noopener noreferrer">Carbon Removal Memes on LinkedIn</a>Resources<a href="https://seachangeproject.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sea Change Project</a><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81045007" rel="noopener noreferrer">My Octopus Teacher</a><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/amphibious-soul-craig-foster?variant=41096263598114" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott" rel="noopener noreferrer">James C. Scott's anthropology</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wim Hof</a>ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/324-my-octopus-teacher-how-rewilding-238" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/324-my-octopus-teacher-how-rewilding-238</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

My Octopus Teacher: How Rewilding Ourselves Could Heal the Planet—w/ Craig Foster, Oscar Winner and Author of Amphibious Soul

Today, Ross and Christophe are joined by Sophia Mendelsohn, Head of Sustainability at JetBlue to discuss the incentive to offset carbon emissions at the personal, company, and global levels. They speak to how the industry is addressing climate change via the CORSIA deal and why limiting carbon exposure and liability makes good business sense from a financial perspective.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/2-sophia-mendelsohn-head-of-sustainability-b03">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/2-sophia-mendelsohn-head-of-sustainability-b03</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

Today, Ross and Christophe are joined by Sophia Mendelsohn, Head of Sustainability at JetBlue to discuss the incentive to offset carbon emissions at the personal, company, and global levels. They speak to how the industry is addressing climate change via the CORSIA deal and why limiting carbon exposure and liability makes good business sense from a financial perspective.Resources This episode's page on the web: https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/2-sophia-mendelsohn-head-of-sustainability-b03 Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe Books from the show, at Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com

Today, Ross and Christophe are joined by Sophia Mendelsohn, Head of Sustainability at JetBlue to discuss the incentive to offset carbon emissions at the personal, company, and global levels. They speak to how the industry is addressing climate change via the CORSIA deal and why limiting carbon exposure and liability makes good business sense from a financial perspective.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/2-sophia-mendelsohn-head-of-sustainability-b03" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/2-sophia-mendelsohn-head-of-sustainability-b03</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

Sophia Mendelsohn, Head of Sustainability at JetBlue Airways

On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system. Resources This episode's page on the web: https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe Books from the show, at Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com

On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system.ResourcesThis episode's page on the web: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/paul-gambill-ceo-of-nori</a>Subscribe to the Reversing Climate Change Substack: <a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rosskenyon.com/subscribe</a>Books from the show, at Bookshop: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bookshop.org/shop/reversing-climate-change</a>My other show, Climate Workers Anonymous: <a href="https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.climateworkersanonymous.com</a>

Paul Gambill, CEO of Nori

Reversing Climate Change is a podcast about carbon removal and climatetech that keeps wandering off into literature, history, philosophy, theology, and geopolitics on the theory that the technical and scientific questions stop making much sense without them. Hosted by Ross Kenyon, who did not go past a year of political philosophy PhD coursework and has visibly not let it go.

Paid subscriptions live on Substack @ https://rosskenyon.com.

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Reversing Climate Change is a podcast about carbon removal and climatetech that keeps wandering off into literature, history, philosophy, theology, and geopolitics on the theory that the technical and scientific questions stop making much sense without them. Hosted by Ross Kenyon, who did not go past a year of political philosophy PhD coursework and has visibly not let it go. Paid subscriptions live on Substack @ https://rosskenyon.com. © Carbon Removal Strategies LLC

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