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A public honor for Charlie sets the stage for a bigger reckoning: awakening without courage fades, and courage without discipleship burns out. We open with a careful look at contested history—why context matters for Columbus Day, Indigenous heritage, and how easy it is to trade nuance for slogans. Then we lean into a groundswell that’s hard to ignore: young people are flocking to messages that don’t dodge hard topics. They’re finding a way to connect faith with everyday decisions—family, school, work, and yes, the public square.
Pastor Rob McCoy joins us to trace a line from the Jesus Movement to today’s moment. Calvary Chapel exploded by teaching scripture clearly and welcoming the disillusioned, but California’s civic reality moved the other way. That gap is the challenge: if discipleship avoids politics, who defends the policies that shape our neighbors’ lives? Rob shares how Charlie treated politics as an on-ramp to the gospel, modeling a style that thinks biblically and speaks plainly. The result is a surge of practical faith—young adults starting families, serving their communities, and asking pastors for straight answers about law, liberty, and responsibility.
The urgency comes into sharp focus in South Korea. Rob tells the story of Build Up Korea, Mina Kim’s fearless organizing, and the arrest of Pastor Son under a government that’s raiding churches, intimidating opposition leaders, and packing courts. Before he died, Charlie promised to elevate their case. Rob flew back to keep that promise—preaching hope, visiting the prison, and urging leaders to stand firm while allies rally. We explore a concrete path forward: awaken the church to speak clearly, and use leverage—like targeted tariffs tied to religious freedom and rule of law—to make liberty the better bargain. It’s a sobering, actionable picture of how faith can serve the common good at home and abroad.
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A public honor for Charlie sets the stage for a bigger reckoning: awakening without courage fades, and courage without discipleship burns out. We open with a careful look at contested history—why context matters for Columbus Day, Indigenous heritage, and how easy it is to trade nuance for slogans. Then we lean into a groundswell that’s hard to ignore: young people are flocking to messages that don’t dodge hard topics. They’re finding a way to connect faith with everyday decisions—family, school, work, and yes, the public square.
Pastor Rob McCoy joins us to trace a line from the Jesus Movement to today’s moment. Calvary Chapel exploded by teaching scripture clearly and welcoming the disillusioned, but California’s civic reality moved the other way. That gap is the challenge: if discipleship avoids politics, who defends the policies that shape our neighbors’ lives? Rob shares how Charlie treated politics as an on-ramp to the gospel, modeling a style that thinks biblically and speaks plainly. The result is a surge of practical faith—young adults starting families, serving their communities, and asking pastors for straight answers about law, liberty, and responsibility.
The urgency comes into sharp focus in South Korea. Rob tells the story of Build Up Korea, Mina Kim’s fearless organizing, and the arrest of Pastor Son under a government that’s raiding churches, intimidating opposition leaders, and packing courts. Before he died, Charlie promised to elevate their case. Rob flew back to keep that promise—preaching hope, visiting the prison, and urging leaders to stand firm while allies rally. We explore a concrete path forward: awaken the church to speak clearly, and use leverage—like targeted tariffs tied to religious freedom and rule of law—to make liberty the better bargain. It’s a sobering, actionable picture of how faith can serve the common good at home and abroad.
If this conversation resonates, share it with a friend, subscribe for future episodes, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway so we can keep amplifying stories that matter.
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