Episode 185: Aging 101.
Dr. Schlaerth explained the physiology, how to slow down and how to prevent aging. Dr. Ayyagari inquired about how to fight ageism in our clinic and in our society. Dr. Arreaza highlights the importance of treating elderly patients with dignity and empathy. A new book written by Dr. Schlaerth is introduced (“The Ways our Bodies Age.”)
Written by Katherine Schlaerth, MD (Clinica Sierra Vista). Edits and comments by Hector Arreaza, MD (Clinica Sierra Vista), and Tejasvi Ayyagari, MSIV (Ross University School of Medicine.)
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Interview
Arreaza: Question 1:
- What are some early signs that may indicate that your body is aging? (Pain? Memory? Weight loss?)
Schlaerth: Maximum bone mass, muscle strength and mass and general strength and endurance generally peak in the third and early fourth decades of life. However, genetics and environment play a big role in aging for each of us. People can have problems with visual accommodation in their early forties, if not before. Many people feel that a realization of the possibility of aging begins when they must have magnification to read very small print. Women often complain of menopause as a benchmark for aging. Men don’t really have such a well demarcated event in their lives.
Arreaza: Sure, men do not have a specific event, but I think an undeniable sign of aging in men is urinary frequency. I normally tell my patients that the nose, the ears, and the prostate are organs that tend to grow with age. So, if a male patient complains that they must use the bathroom more frequently, that may be a sign that their prostate is growing, after ruling out other conditions, if needed, we can reassure the patient that this can be a normal sign with aging. We will not neglect the patient because “it is normal” but we must offer interventions when needed.
Schlaerth: The bottom line may be that aging is multifactorial, involves everything from the demands of one’s employment, through genetics, diet, and exercise right up to how many friends one has. It is also a stealth process, and all our body parts may even age at different rates! One individual may have great kidneys but an erratic thyroid, and another a shrinking liver but a superb array of teeth.
Arreaza: (Humor) Plastic surgery and cosmetics can hide some signs of aging (not all). A wise woman said that you can hide your age, but your hands and neck will surely reveal it.
Schlaerth: Many of us use external clues to measure aging. Teenage daughters accuse us of being behind the times, or new wrinkles and white streaks in our hair bring the reality of time passing to us.
So, the realization of aging may be rather subjective, or it may be signaled by reduced energy, a falling off of the athletic skills we once had, or weight gain when we eat the same exact quantity and type of food we did at a younger age without gaining weight. So subjective aging mirrors incompletely the aging we are undergoing at a cellular and subcellular level.
TJ: Question 2:
- How can we slow down aging?
Schlaerth: One unpopular way would be to increase the age at which people are eligible for social security if in good health. WHY would this help? Because work adds a valuable dimension to the daily lives of seniors. It provides socialization, intellectual challenges, exercise and allows people to continue giving the results of their valuable life experience to others.
Now there are issues here. Positions may have to change to accompany the changes of aging. People may choose different occupations from those held in adulthood. Part time work may compel employers to decrease salaries and to make accommodating changes in the workplace.
Arreaza: I see your point. As you stay active, your aging slows down.
Schlaerth: On the opposite side of the equation, social security may be saved from being turned into a funding responsibility of the federal government, raising taxes on younger workers and making them even less likely to be able to afford housing and even children.
TJ: [In your experience Dr. Schlaerth, are professions, especially healthcare, moving in that direction to provide appropriate accommodations for aging workforce?]
Schlaerth: There are variability.
Schlaerth: To continue about slowing down aging, as an alternative, acquire a new skill or hobby that allows you to grow instead of vegetating in front of a TV or other screen, and brings you into contact with others, young and older, who share your interest.
More popular ideas would include expanding opportunities to exercise and socialize within one’s own community, with local initiatives geared to the specifics of the community’s location and interests.
But in the long run, education and motivation will be the biggest interventions. People need to know more about their bodies over time, because preparing for aging takes knowledge and starts in one’s thirties or forties. This means establishing an exercise habit which will endure for decades and is consistent with one’s responsibilities to one’s family and one’s job. It must work and be doable over time.
Arreaza: So, we must develop an exercise routine that we enjoy, it’s challenging, and sustainable over decades. Brain exercise also works (new ways to go to work, learning a new language, etc.)
Schlaerth: -Eating habits must be changed, which will involve less eating out and more home cooking.
TJ: [As much as I enjoy a good In-N-Out burger, nothing beats a home cooked meal. Aside from controlling the ingredients for individualized diets/spice levels, cooking for me is therapeutic and helps relieve stress, especially when I cook Indian food (my specialty).]
Schlaerth: Choosing the right lifelong partner and staying married is a big help. That may also require a bit of education, starting in childhood! All studies show that being married prolongs life!
Tongue in cheek, I would suggest choosing the right location to settle down. Los Angeles and New York City don’t currently look like stress free places to live. That may change though.
Arreaza: I guess if you have a good social support in those cities, it may work. What else can we recommend our patients?
Schlaerth: People who are happy and optimistic and have lots of friends and family statistically do well. Join your local church, synagogue, temple, mosque, etc. Living according to your code of ethics and beliefs with others who share these is always reinforcing and offers support in times of trouble.
One recently widowed octogenarian who had had a very strong and fulfilling marriage knew that she had to reinvent purpose in her life. So, she became the neighborhood unofficial social worker. Did a friend’s child need a place to stay until he or she got their own apartment? Come on over, there’s an extra bedroom. Was a trip to the doctor needed by someone who couldn’t drive? Let’s go!
Another widow opened her home to students at a university, charging rent and becoming a “mother hen” to her student lodgers.
A man who loved aeronautics served as a docent for a local museum and became a fount of information about the intricacies of World War II planes right down to structural details.
All of these and similar strategies kept people interested and interesting, promoted exercise and took a bit of creativity and yes, energy.
Arreaza: So, to slow down aging, stay physically, spiritually, and mentally active. Question 3:
- Why are people so afraid of aging?
(TJ: There are some concepts we can introduce for discussion:
-Gerascophobia is an abnormal or incessant fear of growing older or ageing.
-Gerontophobia is the hatred or fear of the elderly.
-Ageism refers to age discrimination)
Schlaerth: There are very personal and idiosyncratic reasons for a fear of aging.
One gentleman saw his wife die a painful death from cancer and this triggered his fear.
Another saw his grandparents age and had to help care for them. Sometimes this kind of experience can engender love and respect for one’s older family members, and sometimes the opposite.
-One’s teeth leave, food is no longer palatable, balanced precludes getting a kid’s ball off your roof, constipation and aches are a daily struggle, even the TV shows you loved are now old reruns. You no longer feel welcome in this new world. And anyway, you can’t drive at night, and you can’t hear well enough in a crowd to join in a restaurant conversation.
-But probably the biggest reasons include a loss of function and autonomy (the Bible even alludes to this fear!), loss of employment and loneliness when one’s friends and especially one’s lifelong partner are no longer there.
-Cultural change can also be a factor. The community one grew up in no longer exists. Communication is by computer or cell phone and much too complicated to learn. The old lot where baseball was played so long ago is now a derelict and abandoned shopping center!
-You don’t look beautiful anymore.
-A strong religious faith often mitigates a lot of these fears.
TJ: Question 4:
- How can we fight age discrimination (ageism) in our clinics, hospitals, and society?
Schlaerth: The humanity of each person needs to be recognized. It is said that people feel about 20 years younger than their chronologic age. This may not be true for children, teenagers, or young adults though.
When interacting with older folk, the need for environmental issues like good illumination, comfort, clear and low-pitched speech, the absence of extraneous noise, eye contact should be addressed to facilitate communication. If a younger person accompanies the older person, address at least some comments specifically to the older person.
Allow time for a slower gait or response to questions.
If possible, add a small complement that acknowledges the senior’s personality or accomplishment. For example, an older lady with her daughter was left out of a conversation about her health because she was deaf, spoke a language other than English, and couldn’t recall the particulars of a recent visit to a specialist. However, she’d raised 13 children who were all gainfully employed raising their own children and assets to society. When she was praised for this monumental accomplishment in the face of scanty resources, she brightened up like a wilted flower given water.
-In society, again let older people perform when they have the capacity, be this in the workplace, the home, or in a social situation. Recognize everyone’s humanity, even if it means just smiling at an elderly man in a wheelchair. And if the old lady can cross the street by herself, let her do so, even if you are a boy scout!
Arreaza: In summary, treat your elderly patients with dignity and acknowledge them. Question 5.
- Give us three fundamentals of aging for primary care.
Schlaerth:
- Help people in their thirties and forties prepare for old age by evaluating genetic and other risk factors, attacking the early stages of chronic diseases, encouraging lifelong good habits and working on eliminating bad ones, and vaccinate early.
- Help people maintain function as long as possible, even if total cure is no longer possible.
- Recognize the humanity and need for recognition in every person no matter how old and frail.
TJ: Let’s talk about your book: What was your motivation to write it?
Arreaza: What is the basic message of your book?
TJ: Give advice to new or aspiring writers or medical authors.
Arreaza: The book can be found in Amazon: The Ways our Bodies Age by Katherine Schlaerth, MD.
Conclusions:
Arreaza: My take-home point for this episode is that aging is a physiologic process that takes place at a different pace in every individual. We can slow down or speed up the process depending on many factors, such as genetics, diet, occupation, and physical activity. We all will undergo the process of aging. So, let’s be prepared and prepare our patients for that process with the advice given by Dr. Schlaerth.
TJ: I want to have smooth conversation with our patients about aging.
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References:
- Schlaerth, Katherine R., The Ways Our Bodies Age, Archway Publishing, 2025. Available for purchase at Amazon.com.
- Theme song, Works All The Time, by Dominik Schwarzer, YouTube ID: CUBDNERZU8HXUHBS, purchased from https://www.premiumbeat.com/.