In the introductionNate and Benjamin briefly discuss how Los Angeles is not thriving like New York is in these post pandemic days including Benjamin's sub-par meal at Petit Trois (le Valley). They then look forward to icon Alice Waters forthcoming Los Angeles restaurant at The Hammer. They then go on to discuss NY media comings-and-goings, a move from Pace to Zwirner, the first REAL Gala and some crazy results from the Phillips sale in Hong Kong.

They are then joined by curator, art advisor and country gentleman Robert Sheffield for a heartfelt conversation touching on the meaning of art, moving out of the city but remaining in the contemporary arts fold, and the future of art and commerce in England and beyond in a post-pandemic world. This is a great conversation and one you won't want to miss.