The inventor of the mRNA technology currently used worldwide for the pandemic, Dr. Robert W. Malone joins David Gornoski for an intriguing conversation on the public health institutions' reaction to the pandemic; the products that have been rolled out to deal with the virus and whether these can be effective against newer strains; why the Pfizer product is failing in Israel; whether Biden and Fauci are correct in pointing out how certain people are the cause of rising cases; and more.