Rock N Roll Bedtime Stories

Brian and Murdock dissect the tall tale about that one time David Bowie hit on Axl Rose’s girlfriend – and then might have HIT Axl, too.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.loudersound.com/features/when-axl-rose-fought-david-bowie

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/david-bowie-sexuality-mick-jagger-affair/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/rip-david-bowie-gavin-haynes-828/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/26/susan-sarandon-past-sexual-relationship-david-bowie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_(1983_film)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tina-turner-credits-david-bowie-with-saving-her-career-in-resurfaced-interview/DOPXLTZXJFD2PMTF2MWAI76W5Q/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Sane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeves_Gabrels

https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-david-bowie-formed-a-band-and-got-loud-with-tin-machine/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Girl_(song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Dance_(David_Bowie_album)

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/i-played-the-track-with-my-eyes-closed-and-i-would-see-him-the-cure-guitarist-reeves-gabrels-talks-recording-with-and-after-david-bowie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Machine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_So_Easy_(Guns_N%27_Roses_song)

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/watch-guns-n-roses-long-lost-its-so-easy-video-deemed-too-racy-mtv/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-its-so-easy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Arkeen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_Destruction

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls023409901/

https://bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/110/lot/47337/AXL-ROSE-BREAK-UP-LETTERS-TO-ERIN-EVERLY

https://grapevinefinearts.com/allnews3/erin-everly.html

https://www.rocksoffmag.com/erin-everly-axl-rose/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riki_Rachtman

https://cathousehollywood.com/pages/history

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/david-bowie-axl-rose-fight/

Axl after punch photo: https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/1dbd3fu/picture_of_axl_taken_after_getting_punched_by/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-punch-david-bowie/

Brian and Murdock get a letter from a metalhead wanting the dudes to share the scoop on the world’s most famous death metal band: arson, Jim Carrey, sea worms and ALL!

SHOW NOTES:

https://www.nme.com/news/music/former-cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-sentenced-for-role-in-bizarre-burglary-2933009

https://metal.fandom.com/wiki/Pat_O%27Brien_(guitarist)

https://www.metalsucks.net/2018/12/20/cannibal-corpse-release-statement-on-arrest-of-guitarist-pat-obrien/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Corpse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_O%27Brien_(guitarist)

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cannibal_Corpse/186

The 2012 interview: https://www.loudersound.com/features/cannibal-corpse-death-metal-history-interview-2012

The Ace Ventura Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH3La3RJdNA

The Ace network-TV only scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myB6Cc4UAI8

https://www.vice.com/en/article/we-interviewed-cannibal-corpse-about-that-one-time-they-were-in-ace-ventura-pet-detective/

Jim Carrey on Arsenio talking about thrash metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBSBcFZEbl4

The guys from Metal Blade and CC talk about the Ace Ventura offer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSmPxs7DSyo

https://blabbermouth.net/news/inside-cannibal-corpses-1995-decision-to-fire-chris-barnes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Barnes_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_(band)

https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/cannibal-corpse-guitarist-jailed-in-tampa-on-burglary-assault-charges-20181211/

https://www.nme.com/news/music/former-cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-sentenced-for-role-in-bizarre-burglary-2933009

https://metalinjection.net/metal-crimes/cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-released-from-jail

https://metalinsider.net/video/exhorder-clarifies-pat-obriens-ex-cannibal-corpse-status-amid-new-album-announcement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websteroprion

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2022/september/ancient-hairy-armoured-worm-lived-oceans-over-500-million-years-ago.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jaws-terrifying-giant-prehistoric-worm-9860020

https://loudwire.com/400-million-year-old-monster-worm-named-after-cannibal-corpse-alex-webster/

After hearing about the onstage meltdown of Jane’s Addiction, the guys go back to 1985 for one of the wildest tales of a band falling apart in public – that time one of the Butthole Surfers took a handful of acid tabs and tried to fight the world.

SHOW NOTES:

Our Band Could Be Your Life by Michael Azerrad:

https://bookoutlet.com/book/our-band-could-be-your-life-scenes-from-the-american-indie-underground-19811991/azerrad-michael/9780316787536B

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/janes-addiction-concert-ends-fight-perry-ferrell-dave-navarro-punch-1236143977/

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/butthole-surfers-part-3-tom-bunch-on-signing-with-capitol-the-medias-problem-with-the-name-babysitting-the-buttholes-gibby-vs-paul-and-the-end-of-the-affair-6529021

https://www.alternativenation.net/the-10-most-legendary-perfromances-by-the-butthole-surfers/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blotter_art

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-does-acid-last#How-long-does-acid-last?

The guys take a break from research to sit down together and thumb through some listener letters. They tackle betting odds on the Oasis reunion, memories about Mayfield, and insights from fans who also still love Third Eye Blind…

SHOW NOTES:

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/blog/oasis-reunion-odds-betting-predictions-picks/

The guys uncover a series of stories that seem to point towards an introspective period of Bob Dylan’s life – when he got sorta into trespassing. Hear how the troubadour found his own connections to John Lennon, Neil Young, and seemingly Bruce Springsteen.

SHOW NOTES:

Deliver Me From Darkness: https://www.amazon.com/Deliver-Me-Nowhere-Springsteens-Nebraska/dp/0593237412

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/jersey-homeowner-calls-cops-bob-dylan/story?id=8331830#:~:text=Aug.,who%20he%20said%20he%20was.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/dylan-searching-home-springsteen-penned-born-run/story?id=8335824

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a26889/dylan-buble/

https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/mary-climbs-in/9781978827189/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/oct/20/house-where-bruce-springsteen-wrote-born-to-run-goes-on-sale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_to_Run

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/bob-dylan-turns-up-at-neil-young-s-childhood-home-for-a-tour-1.755913

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8046278.stm

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/the_story_of_the_martin_d-28_used_by_hank_williams_bob_dylan_and_neil_young-164340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Wind

https://umgf.com/careful-with-hank-s-41-d-28-t140481-s40.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tut_Taylor

https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/k7x2v1/visited_bobs_childhood_home_this_morning/

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/bob-dylans-childhood-home

https://kool1017.com/mayim-bialik-visited-hibbing-to-see-personal-mecca-bob-dylan-home-went-to-the-wrong-house/

Brian and Murdock explore the bad blood, big egos, and excellent alt rock that define the relationships Billy Corgan has with the rest of the musicians who made up the original Smashing Pumpkins line-up. The guys investigate what happened to that one original member who has never come back to the fold.

SHOW NOTES:

The 2009 radio call: https://youtu.be/GwiUAfWo-Nk?si=cp5U7gIj_NOj210f

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/1cvsw9r/what_really_happened_between_billy_corgan_james/

The 2018 Alternative Nation Interview: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-first-interview-in-20-years/#google_vignette

The 2018 text messages: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-darcy-shares-billy-corgan-guns-n-roses-reunion-offer/

The Billy interviewing D’arcy clip (1994): https://youtu.be/1qIhtKkrnuM?si=W011LiA_1GJoo0_Z

https://www.nova.ie/billy-corgan-reveals-entire-relationship-darcy-started-argument-113430/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Reed_Network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smashing_Pumpkins

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/hj38gf/new_fan_what_happened_between_billy_and_darcy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_Dream

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-pavement-penned-a-track-to-insult-the-smashing-pumpkins/

https://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=145628

https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-10-29/why-the-smashing-pumpkins-bassist-disappeared-without-a-trace.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27arcy_Wretzky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Iha

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-downfall-of-darcy-wretzky.465910/page-6

https://chicagoradiospotlight.blogspot.com/2008/08/manno-brothers.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/smashing-pumpkins-explain-darcy-absence-ahead-of-rumored-reunion-253666/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Rourke

Brian and Murdock examine the significance of Soul legend Curtis Mayfield, the amazing career that got him into the Rock Hall of Fame TWICE, and the fateful day in 1990 that would change his life forever.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-multi-time-inductees/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Butler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Mayfield

https://wschronicle.com/senior-spotlight-jerry-butler-soul-survivor/

YouTube guitar lesson on Curtis’ style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYasnu5Oi4

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/did-john-mayer-rip-off-curtis-mayfield-waiting-on-the-world-people-get-ready.103508/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Parks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Fly_(1972_film)

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/curtis-mayfield-super-fly-things-you-didnt-know-1364038/

https://magazine.waxpoetics.com/connections/hey-america/article/curtis-mayfield-gangster-boogie/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtom_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtom_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Markowitz

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/arts/music/16concerts.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/read-excerpt-from-curtis-mayfield-bio-detailing-tragic-accident-126593/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(album)

https://www.popmatters.com/curtis-mayfield-new-world-order-2496160140.html

https://www.goldradiouk.com/news/music/curtis-mayfield-accident-death/

The guys unravel the “why” behind the 2005 reality show that featured INXS holding a competition to replace their legendary lead singer – and what happened to the formerly homeless dude who won the gig.

SHOW NOTES:

Watch the whole season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSQj8S6AEC8&list=PLRclssR8khSnc-kGFpAtSzslub3_X1H6s

https://duranduran.fandom.com/wiki/INXS#:~:text=He%20wanted%20us%20to%20write,it%20was%20a%20good%20name.

https://medium.com/@duaneenglish_92144/backtracks-inxs-kick-a2c33d995a31

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/INXS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stevens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mark-burnett-survivor-to-choose-the-new-inxs-front-man.35911/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Star:_INXS

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/a-new-reality-for-inxs-62008/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(American_TV_series)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Breakfast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-Challenge

https://michaelhutchence.org/second-interview-with-kirk-pengilly/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

https://ew.com/article/2004/06/15/inxs-seek-new-frontman-mark-burnett-reality-show/

https://www.nydailynews.com/2004/08/19/one-on-chin-for-champ-judge-awards-a-point-to-rival/

https://www.deseret.com/2004/7/19/19840535/fox-goes-on-offensive-over-theft-allegations/?_amp=true

JD Fortune 2022 Rolling Stone Interview: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/jd-fortune-inxs-replacement-1234598190/

Brian and Murdock go looking for an early 90’s advertisement that may or may not have featured members of a quintessential Seattle-based band who would go on to create Midwestern emo and have a founding member find a place in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

SHOW NOTES:

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/foo-fighters-nate-mendel-fights-and-sunny-day-real-estate-571438

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/the_best_emo_album_of_the_90s_might_actually_be_a_grunge_masterpiece-165162

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate

https://www.popmatters.com/sunny-day-real-estate-diary-atr30

https://www.subpop.com/artists/sunny_day_real_estate

https://www.avclub.com/sunny-day-real-estate-s-jeremy-enigk-on-being-the-reluc-1798252145

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Old_Lu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Sprinkle

See the Nordstrom ad: https://x.com/s_martone/status/1367695846071009280?lang=en

https://riotfest.org/2018/05/18/jeremy-enigk-talks-about-sunny-day-real-estate-and-his-personal-musical-evolution/

http://www.fooarchive.com/features/mhp05_nate.htm

https://retailwire.com/discussion/nordstrom-sings-a-new-tune/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordstrom

South Park emo clips: https://youtu.be/H9oa46-kUqQ?feature=shared

https://www.avclub.com/sunny-day-real-estate-1798217697

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-dave-grohl-joined-tom-petty-to-perform-on-snl/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hoerner

A listener letter asking for the details on Ozzy guitarist Zakk Wylde’s reputation leads the guys to unpacking a 20-year-old internet scam and the message board chaos it left in its wake.

SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ozzy_Osbourne_members

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/zakk-wylde-and-ozzy-osbourne-revisit-1988s-no-rest-wicked

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/skid-row-pretty-bad-boys-203138/3/

Zakk audition demos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxsFD3KXrE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakk_Wylde

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/ozzys_real_reason_for_firing_zakk_wylde.html#:~:text=The%20Brit%20legend%20had%20feared,getting%20the%20better%20of%20him.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090803085115/http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=124504

https://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/05/joe-holmes-ozzy-outcast/#:~:text=Holmes%20replaced%20Zakk%20Wylde%20after,to%20hear%20them%20some%20day.

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/pizza-money-why-zakk-wylde-said-no-to-joining-guns-n-roses/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/zakk-wylde-s-webmaster-quits-over-357-customs-controversy

https://www.jcfonline.com/forum/other/non-jackson-charvel-related-talk/50474-357-is-at-it-again/page11

https://www.harmonycentral.com/forums/topic/1103167-some-interesting-357-information-on-daniel-bauguess-aka-the-boss/

https://www.guitars101.com/threads/357-customs-does-it-again-get-your-cheap-zakk-wylde-axe.39804/

Ebay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/296434867396

Reddit thread on NASCAR diecast: https://www.reddit.com/r/NASCARCollectors/comments/sacnff/recently_bought_this_one_91_dick_trickle/

https://religionsucketh.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/motorcycle-clubs-zakk-wylde-and-ridiculousness/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/black-label-society-guitarist-says-people-take-the-band-s-image-too-seriously

https://blabbermouth.net/news/black-label-society-guitarist-says-people-take-the-band-s-image-too-seriously

https://markweinguitarlessons.com/forums/threads/do-you-guys-remember-a-while-ago-where-there-was-this-deal-if-you-bought-some-dumb-zakk-wylde-model.88374/

https://blacklabelsociety.net/f-a-q/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Label_Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biker_metal

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/75ca9s/celebrity_guitarists_website_scams_fans_out_of/

https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/357-customs-daniel-bauguess-chad-dyer-zakk-wylde/internet/357-customs-daniel-357-customs-chad-dyer-zakk-wylde-ripoff-black-label-society-natura-201565

https://www.harmonycentral.com/forums/topic/1224763-i-just-got-a-guitar-from-357-customs/page/2/

https://www.harmonycentral.com/forums/topic/1103167-some-interesting-357-information-on-daniel-bauguess-aka-the-boss/

Original blogspot cataloging the controversy: https://357bullseye.blogspot.com/