Brian and Murdock relive the horrors of Christmas seasons past – particularly the ones where they had to play Christmas songs on the radio – and get at why one particular tune always got under the skin.

SHOW NOTES:

The guys have a VERY GOOD announcement to make about the future of the show!

The guys get a stack of letters, each asking for clarification on a similar point – are these classic tunes REALLY “Christmas songs”?

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Old_Lang_Syne

https://www.pjstar.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/12/14/dan-fogelberg-same-old-lang-syne/6494479002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Speedwagon

https://fle-pics.blogspot.com/2013/01/dan-fogelberg-in-jackson-ms-1974.html

Fogelberg in Jackson, Mississippi recording – https://youtu.be/JTAEvRx-omk?si=g2DHG2LPViJHIygZ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Honeyman-Scott

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pretenders-2000-miles/

https://www.jonkutner.com/2000-miles-pretenders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://www.thisisdig.com/feature/2000-miles-pretenders-song-story/

JM talks about adoption

Will Blythe on Joni & James Christmas in NC

Washington Post How River Became a Christmas Classic

Excellent Resource on Blue from NYT

JM on NPR about Bah Humbug

Author David Rowell joins Brian to talk about his new book, The Endless Refrain, and the idea that maybe none of us like new music as much as we should.

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Brian breaks down a couple of seemingly tall tales about the poet-turned-troubadour and uncovers another bad business manager cautionary ode.

SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Leonard_Cohen

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Leonard Cohen documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvTeMdmdCI

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/highlights/1218412-judy-collins-ray-darcy

https://savingcountrymusic.com/leonard-cohen-could-have-been-a-country-star-rip/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Collins

https://www.bigissue.com/culture/music/judy-collins-i-didnt-write-songs-until-after-i-met-leonard-cohen/

https://scalar.usc.edu/works/musictoronto/earliest-recording-of-leonard-cohens-suzanne—the-stormy-clovers-1966

https://ex-press.ca/2016/11/15/leonard-cohen-reminiscence/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Johnston

https://cavehollywood.com/leonard-cohen-songs-from-a-room/

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/leonard-cohen-embezzlement-career-comeback-7580545/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/19/leonard-cohen-former-manager-jailed

https://sharpmagazine.com/2018/11/06/how-do-we-come-to-terms-with-leonard-cohens-legacy-in-the-metoo-era/

https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/772-mccabe-mrs-miller-profound-pessimism-and-leonard-c/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/pleadings/Compl%20agst%20Lynch%20Westin.pdf

2006 Fresh Air interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/21/498810429/leonard-cohen-on-poetry-music-and-why-he-left-the-zen-monastery

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/archived/rhythmdivine/5076662

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2016/11/26/leonard-cohen-mt-baldy-monk-claremont-consumer/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyozan_Joshu_Sasaki

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/robbery-leonard-cohen-music/

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/leonard-cohen-hipgnosis-1235196842/

The guys get an earful and an education on the Tulsa Sound and sketch comedy when a listener asks about Leon Russell’s drummer…

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SHOW NOTES:

https://kendrasteinereditions.wordpress.com/2021/02/08/gary-busey-discusses-leon-russell/

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-craziest-things-gary-busey-has-ever-done/carly-kiel

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/07/23/archives/folksiness-is-gary-buseys-film-career-the-one-who-taught-me-poetic.html

https://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/113660

https://www.remindmagazine.com/article/21166/gary-busey-life-after-death-1988-accident-howie-mandel-podcast

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-05-me-711-story.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/01/Buseys-anti-helmet-stance-unchanged-despite-crash/5243604731600/

https://www.tumblr.com/uncle-gary-busey/190159738563/gary-busey-and-teddy-jack-eddy

https://okma.fandom.com/wiki/Carp

https://www.mazeppa.com/

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=BU022

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazeppa.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/chew.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazmurg.html

Tulsa World article (1992): https://www.mazeppa.com/about-mazeppa

https://thislandpress.com/2011/01/23/mazeppa-the-uncanny-film-festival-and-camp-meeting/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Halsey

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/entertainment/columns/brandy-mcdonnell/2016/11/13/master-of-space-and-time-leon-russell-dies/60638176007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_sound

https://thechurchstudio.com/leon-russell-going-back-to-tulsa-one-more-time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_O%27_the_Wisp_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buddy_Holly_Story

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/petty-warren-zanes/1122597923

A listener letter leads Brian and Murdock to another sliding doors speculation – if a certain tragedy hadn’t happened to Bjork in 1996, would the world of music sound very different today?

SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_L%C3%B3pez_(stalker)

https://emadion.it/en/suicides/ricardo-lopez-storia-uno-stalker/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3du0GpXE5WY

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=444358093173398

https://thomasr.nvg.org/bjork/mainpage/rc.html

https://www.icelandtours.is/blog/bjork-iceland/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sugarcubes

https://www.npr.org/2010/08/06/129029063/bjork-a-celestial-voice

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bjork-stalker-acid-letterbomb-ricardo-lopez/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/08/northern-souls-the-anarcho-punks-who-made-iceland-a-pop-powerhouse

https://thevogue.com/artists/bjork/#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm_(record_label)

https://smekkleysa.net/about/history/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/udmxc6/opinion_the_sugarcubes_are_a_bunch_of_pretty_good/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life%27s_Too_Good#:~:text=Despite%20never%20having%20intended%20to,release%20two%20further%20studio%20albums.

Betsey Johnson fashion show footage: https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/1c2ip81/you_wont_see_anything_more_iconic_today/

https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=132422&page=1

https://thecrimemag.com/ricardo-lopez-tapes/

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1996/09/19/a-race-against-insanity/

https://themoderngirls.co/2017/06/21/frontwoman-spotlight-bjork-and-the-sugarcubes/

Unpredictable podcast episode: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/unpred-ictable/episodes/The-Bjrk-Stalker-Tapes–explained-e270o2b

Spread the Dread podcast episode: https://music.amazon.com/es-us/podcasts/aa625bb4-74b6-4015-8649-97b88eb8a4d9/episodes/e12c5a9e-4910-48eb-bbc5-83a48bac6ea3/spread-the-dread-podcast-episode-10—ricardo-lopez—the-bjork-stalker 

I Could Murder A Podcast episode 

https://shows.acast.com/icmap/episodes/the-bjork-stalker-the-ricardo-lopez-video-diaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldie

https://forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/5618/ricardo-lopezs-803-page-diary

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/wanted-bad-wasnt-cut-goldie-crime-class-return-music/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Loves_Sunshine

https://www.thefader.com/2017/11/08/goldie-david-bowie-truth-all-things-remembered-extract

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogenic

Spin cover story 1997: https://www.spin.com/2017/09/bjork-homogenic-cover-story/

https://www.loudandquiet.com/short/bjork-homogenic-at-20-template-for-artistic-reinvention/

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music/2022/09/homogenic-brought-bjork-into-focus

The guys catch up on letters sent to the show and talk more about the Pumpkins, the Butthole Surfers, Cannibal Corpse, white noise, and more.

A question from a listener unlocks the “sliding doors” history that exists between members of Van Halen and the accomplished musicians who would join forces to form Mr. Big.

SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Be_with_You

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/its_like_getting_a_phd_in_showbiz_101_billy_sheehan_recalls_what_david_lee_roth_was_like_to_work_with.html

https://defendersofthefaithmetal.com/billy-sheehan-talas-david-lee-roth-mr-big-the-winery-dogs-interview/

https://www.vhnd.com/2024/03/24/billy-sheehan-on-roths-initial-guitarist-choice-before-vai/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/billy_sheehan_speaks_on_why_he_left_david_lee_roth_talks_how_steve_vai_behaved_when_he_joined_the_band.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper_(album)

https://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/66629-Billy-Sheehan-on-How-David-Lee-Roth-Treated-Musicians-He-Hired/page2

https://www.vhnd.com/2009/06/30/billy-sheehan-talk-david-lee-roth-and-van-halen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(American_band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Martin_(musician)

https://www.al.com/life/2021/12/how-having-a-number-one-hit-changed-this-rock-singers-life-forever.html

https://www.vhnd.com/2021/09/16/mr-big-singer-eric-martin-on-the-85-van-halen-audition-that-never-happened/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gilbert

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_recalls_ozzy_audition_rejection_when_he_was_15_years_old__how_it_affected_him.html

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_explains_what_made_him_play_guitar_with_electric_drill_talks_what_he_rarely_does_on_instrument_anymore.html

https://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-first-guitarist-to-play-with-a-drill-was-it-Eddie-Van-Halen-or-Paul-Gilbert

Lips from Anvil (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-WSiIY2zM

https://blog.evhgear.com/2015/08/ask-eddie-using-a-drill-on-poundcake/

Mr Big live performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46BCpSJKIjw

Up close drill footage from Poundcake performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImCAqulEKA

https://www.eonmusic.co.uk/anvil-steve-lips-kudlow-eonmusic-interview-october-2016.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBow

The guys reflect on the monstrous career of Quincy Jones and what he meant (and continues to mean) to the world of popular music.

SHOW NOTES:

The Theme from Ironsides

Ironside (Theme From “Ironside”)

I’ve Got You Under My Skin – with Sinatra, Basie at the Sands Vegas 1966

I’ve Got You Under My Skin (Live At The Sands Hotel And Casino/1966)

Lesley Gore – You Don’t Own Me

Lesley Gore – You Don’t Own Me (Official Audio)

Summer In the City – Quincy’s version 1973

Quincy Jones  – Summer In The City 1973

Soul Bossa Nova  1962

Quincy Jones – SOUL BOSSA NOVA

PYT

Michael Jackson – P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) (Audio)

The Brothers Johnson – Strawberry Letter 23-1977

Strawberry Letter 23

Baby Come to Me-Patti Austin & James Ingram

Patti Austin & James Ingram – Baby, Come To Me (1981 Original LP Version) HQ

Lesley Gore in the Simpsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDAeY2L-6I